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recording vinyl to my computer

Feb 16, 2012 10:36PM PST

I am trying to transfer my vinyl collection to my computer I have a Creative Titanium F1 card but I am not sure how to get th signal in, I am putting it through an amplifier but have had no joy yet any ideas

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You need two things
Feb 17, 2012 4:17AM PST

You need a signal to match the needs of the "line in" jack on your sound card and you need software to capture the tracks. You didn't tell what type of turntable or cartridge you are using as that makes a big difference in what hardware you need. You said you're putting this through an amplifier but all you may really need is a preamp. For recording vinyl, I use an RIAA equalized preamp that's compatible with an old MM (moving magnet) cartridge that puts out something like 3.2 mv. I record through a Creative Labs Audigy series card using "line in". I use Audacity (free) to capture the music, remove noise and isolate the tracks. If you want these burned to CD to play like standard disks, you need to use the proper sampling rate and burn them as audio disks or they won't work. Good luck.

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Feb 17, 2012 6:24AM PST

I am using aTechnics direct drive turntable with a Shure cartridge the output is via phono plugs

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So you need a preamp
Feb 17, 2012 8:11AM PST

If you have an integrated amplifier with phono in and preamp out jacks, you're OK. I don't know your sound card but they generally have stereo mini jacks while your preamp out jacks would be the RCA type. So, you may need an adapter. You also need to make sure your line in feature is not muted and the volume slider is somewhere around midway up. It's also possible to get some mic jacks to work but these tend to be mono. The "line in" is best but you do need a properly buffered and equalized signal from the turntable cartridge. You mentioned a Shure cartridge. Mine is a Shure moving magnet (older) type but newer higher end types are MC (moving coil). The moving coil types generally produce a lower amplitude signal than MM types. If you've a MC type, you do need an MC compatible preamp. Whatever you do, don't try to run the speaker wires from an amplifier into the sound card.

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Feb 19, 2012 4:05AM PST

My card is a Creative SB x-F1 with a host of facilities none of which enable me to record vinyl the unit has a front consul in an HD bay at the front of th computer with phono connections on it hope this helps

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How are you connecting the turntable?
Feb 19, 2012 7:06AM PST

I've no external console so I connect directly to my sound card. I'm presuming your sound card also has jacks available to the rear. Is that true?...and if so, can you plug anything into the "line in" jack and just test it? You said it has a phono connection in the front but what type? USB? There are USB turntables and there are also high output cartridges on some that use RCA jacks but if yours is an RCA jack type with a magnetic cartridge you're still going to need a preamp.

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Feb 19, 2012 8:42PM PST

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</font><font size="3"><font face="Calibri">The connections on the front of the computer are known as
phono<span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> plugs in the UK they may be known
as RCA elsewhere it seems a bit strange that if I plug the turntable into these
I get zilch, unfortunately I cannot find the instructions that came with the
card showing graphically all the connections, as for a preamp I think I will
give it a miss, ultimately I am trying to move all my vinyl onto my Bennan but
first need to remove the clicks & pops <span style="mso-spacerun: yes;"> </font></font>
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Is this your card?
Feb 20, 2012 1:21AM PST
http://support.creative.com/kb/ShowArticle.aspx?sid=85594

If so, I found a help file that you can download. Go to the Quickstart user guide, download it and view it. If it won't view, look at the instructions to unblock it. In any event, I see two RCA jacks on the back that are labeled for either line in or digital optical out. My guess is that these are what you want but will only work one way at a time. I don't know your software but I'd think you'd need to make sure these are set to "line in". You'd connect your turntable here via some preamp. That's about as much as I can offer. I'm sure this can be done but suspect there's some software setting that you might not have found yet. Good luck.
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RCA = US Phone = UK
Feb 20, 2012 4:02AM PST

same thing

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Phone? I suspect that's a typo
Feb 20, 2012 5:24AM PST

Phone jacks (4 wire) are RJ-11. Here's RCA...aka phono...so I think we're talking about the same thing. They are color coded for L-R channel and also have uses for composite audio/video. They've been around at least since the days of vacuum tube hi-fi systems...But you probably knew that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RCA_connector

The card I linked to shows 4 RCA jacks. Two are used for powered speaker outputs and two are multi-purposed including acting as a "line in". Standard phono plugs such as for turntables tend to be RCA types.

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TYPO.. Should be PHONO = UK
Feb 20, 2012 8:49AM PST

Damm auto correct

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Feb 20, 2012 5:12PM PST

Mine has just 2 on the front, I think I will just give up

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Maybe I got the wrong model
Feb 21, 2012 1:08AM PST

Is this yours?

http://support.creative.com/Products/ProductDetails.aspx

If so, it shows a mic/line in jack on the rear of the card. It appears to be blue in color and closest to the MB. Have you already tried this jack? If not, I'd give it a try with some known audio source such as maybe an MP3 type player, ipod, etc., just to see if you could get sound through it. This might take some adjustment of front panel controls such as mic volume or even something in the software. In any event, this might be how you'd connect your turntable. It is the equivalent of what I use in my older Audigy card.

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Feb 19, 2012 4:01AM PST

My card is a Creative Titanium SB X Fi the one with consul with connections on the front of the computer (including two phone connections) and a sound card inside, it has mass of facilities but I cannot record my discs
by the way thanks for your interest