Recommend good Safety software

I have Fix Cleaner - Speedy PC Pro and iola system checkup.
Do you recommend these or something else?

Computer with Vista Home Premium


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Re: safety software

I'd definitely call three of such optimiser programs UNSAFE. Why not dump at least 2, preferably all?

And what's your Internet Security Suite (or: antivirus, anti-malware, anti-fishing, anti-spam, firewall)?


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I'm in (TOTAL) agreement with Kees..


When you ask .. ''do you recommend these or something else'' .. are you indicating you feel those mentioned to be "safety software"? Or are you asking about (security) software to help keep you safe?

Putting semantics aside, if it's the former, I would agree with Kees in that they're "optimizer's". In no way are they going to keep you safe. I (again) agree - they are UNSAFE. I would invite you to read some of the comments posted at Web of Trust (WOT) about Speedy PC Pro. WOT itself gives it an unsafe rating. Better yet, if you do a forum search, I think you'll find some unhappy (former) Speedy PC Pro user's.

Kees asked about your security software. Obviously, I can't comment when I don't knew which one's you have installed. But I can recommend a few of the more popular and reputable one's. Most offer free and paid versions.

Avira's AntiVir
Microsoft Security Essentials (MSE) - Should you select MSE see: "Checklist for installing Microsoft Security Essentials"

Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware
SUPERAntiSpyware Free Edition

I use both of the above (free) as standalone scanners. Having mentioned Web of Trust (WOT), if you don't already have a "safe surfing" tool which rates the sites you visit, I would strongly recommend installing it. In fact, I feel it's more valuable than any / ALL of the 3 you mentioned. I too would uninstall the 3.

Best of luck..

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Hi Carol and thanks for your reply.
Please would you recommend what I should Download (hopefully Free) to my computer.
I have Microsoft Essentials Security and Malwarebytes.
I have removed the three mentioned earlier.
Always appreciate what you guys do for us.

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Carol me again.
I have downloaded WOT.

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Good choices. IMO


I'm glad to see you removed the 3. They can only cause trouble. I must sound like a broken record when I say "safety" is more about the choices we make, then it is about the software. I'm not the first to say, user's are the weakest link in the security chain. I'm not discounting the software, by any means.

Jimmy Greystone created an excellent post of the type of choices ("what you should and should not do") I'm referring to. It may be a lot to take in, but it's well worth reading - and following.

Keep up the good work..

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Recommended Safety Software

Thanks Kees and Carol.

I already have Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes-Anti Malware.

So please confirm I am OK.

I'll remove the three that I mentioned also have.

Await your reply with thanks Guys.

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MSE in the opinion of many, myself included, is insufficient as a standalone A/V. Malwarebytes is a tool many use, when needed as an add on, it does nothing until it is initiated by the user.. So, if you are running just MSE and MWB without a real A/V package, sooner or later it is more than likey you will see issues. Also, beware of some(and most) of the free downloads that allude to cleaning the registry or stopping spyware and other intrusions, for the most part these create far more issues than they claim to fix. Some of the set ups that Carol mentioned in her post are reasonably effective for an average system user who is not delving into exotic computing and doing downloads from sites of nefarious repute.

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One more to the list

One more to the list. Programs that claim to "clean", "fix", or generally improve the performance of your computer are generally all scams. Most of them just do simple things you could have done yourself, like switch to the Windows classic theme, and some will "free space" by deleting anything in the recycle bin. There's a novel idea, eh? If they include any kind of registry functions, you want to stay far away from them, because odds are they'll just cause problems rather than fix them.

So here is my list of very simple dos and don'ts that will keep you running more or less indefinitely. Completely free too, since a good chunk of it is behavioral.


The more of these suggestions you follow, the fewer problems you should have. They won't solve any existing problems you have, but if you follow them all you should be able to avoid virtually all problems in the future.

Things you should NOT do
1: Use Internet Explorer (1)
2: Use any browser based on Internet Explorer (e.g. Maxathon and MSN Explorer)
3: Use Outlook or Outlook Express (2)
4: Open email attachments you haven't manually scanned with your virus scanner
5: Open email attachments you were not expecting, no matter who they appear to be from
6: Respond to spam messages, including using unsubscribe links
7: Visit questionable websites (e.g. porn, warez, hacking)
8: Poke unnecessary holes in your firewall by clicking "Allow" every time some program requests access to the Internet (3)
9: Click directly on links in email messages
10: Use file sharing or P2P programs
11: Use pirated programs

Things you SHOULD do
1: Use a non-IE or IE based browser (4)
2: Always have an up to date virus scanner running (5)
3: Always have a firewall running (6)
4: Install all the latest security updates (7)(Cool(9)
5: Delete all unsolicited emails containing attachments without reading
6: Manually scan all email attachments with your virus scanner, regardless of whether it's supposed to be done automatically
7: Copy and paste URLs from email messages into your web browser
8: Inspect links copied and pasted into your web browser to ensure they don't seem to contain a second/different address
9: Establish a regular backup regimen (10)(11)
10: Make regular checks of your backup media to ensure it is still good (12)

Being a considerate Internet user & other online tips
1: Do not send attachments in emails (13)(14)
2: Do not use stationary or any other kind of special formatting in emails (13)
3: Do not TYPE IN ALL CAPS (15)
4: Avoid texting speak or "l33t speak" (16)
5: Do not poke sleeping bears (17)
6: Do not use registry cleaners/fixers/optimizers (1Cool(19)

Offline tips and suggestions
1: Avoid buying Acer, HP. Compaq, Gateway, and eMachines computers (20)(21)(22)(23)
2: Avoid sub-$500 systems that aren't netbooks or part of some limited time price promotion (24)


(1) Sadly sometimes this is unavoidable, so only use IE when the site absolutely will not work with any other browser and you cannot get that information/service anywhere else, and only use IE for that one specific site.
(2) Outlook and Outlook Express are very insecure, and basically invite spam. The jury is still out on Vista's Windows Mail, but given Microsoft's history with email programs, extreme caution is advised. Possible replacements include Mozilla Thunderbird, Eudora, The Bat, and dozens of others.
(3) When it doubt over whether or not to allow some program, use Google to find out what it is and whether or not it needs access to the Internet. Otherwise, denying access is the safest course of action, since you can always change the rule later.
(4) On Windows your options include: Mozilla Firefox, Seamonkey, Opera, Flock, Chrome, and Safari. I would personally recommend Firefox with the NoScript extension for added security, but it the important thing is to pick one and use it instead of IE.
(5) AVG Free and Avast are available if you need a decent free virus scanner
(6) XP/Vista's firewall is probably good enough for 99% of all Windows users, but other options include ZoneAlarm, Outpost Firewall, and Comodo. If you have a router with a firewall built into it, there is no need for any of the aforementioned firewalls to be running.
(7) Microsoft's usual system is to release security updates every second Tuesday of the month.
(Cool Use of Windows Update on Windows operating systems prior to Windows Vista requires Internet Explorer, and is thus a valid exception to the "No IE" rule.
(9) Service packs should ALWAYS be installed. They frequently contain security updates that will ONLY be found in that service pack.
(10) You can go with a full fledged backup program, or simply copying important files onto a CD/DVD/Flash drive.
(11) I'd recommend a tiered backup system. For example, you might have 5 rewritable DVDs, and every day you burn your backup onto a new disc. On the 6th day, you erase the disc for Day #1 for your backup, and so on so that you have multiple backups should one disc ever go bad.
(12) Replace rewritable CDs and DVDs approximately every 3-6 months.
(13) These dramatically increase the size of email messages (2-3X minimum) and clog up email servers already straining to cope with the flood of spam pouring in daily.
(14) If you want to share photos with friends/family, upload them to some photo sharing site like Flickr or Google's Picasa Web and then send people a link to that particular photo gallery.
(15) This is considered to be the same as SHOUTING and many people find it to be hard to read along with highly annoying.
(16) Unless the goal is to make yourself look like a pre-adolescent girl, or someone overcompensating for their gross inadequacies, and you don't want people to take you seriously.
(17) Most REAL hackers are quite content to leave you alone unless you make them take notice of you. No dinky little software firewall or consumer grade router is going to keep them out of your system. So do not go to some hacker website or chat room and start shooting your mouth off unless you're prepared to accept the consequences
(1Cool Most of these programs are scams, and sell you something you don't need. Most of them report non-issues in an attempt to boost the number of "issues". Sometimes using these programs can lead to a non-functioning computer.
(19) The Windows registry is not some mystical black box of untapped performance tweaks for Windows, that will lead to untold improvements in system performance. Most of the tweaks will lead to very modest performance gains of 1-2% tops, and probably less than 10% all combined. There is also a good chance that you will render your system unbootable if you make a mistake when editing. Registry default settings are set that way for a reason. Just do yourself a favor, and forget you ever heard of the Windows registry unless you are a computer programmer/debugger and your job requires knowledge of the registry.
(20) Acer now owns Gateway and eMachines
(21) HP owns Compaq
(22) Hardware failures seem far more common with these brands than can be considered normal
(23) These companies use cheap labor in Asian countries were working conditions are often what would be considered sweat shops, and are run by brutal dictatorships, which you are supporting by buying from these companies
(24) If you just do some simple math, and realize that the cost of individual components like the CPU are around 25-33% of the total retail cost of the system, and everyone involved in the making and selling of the system is looking to make a profit, how much money can they possibly be making on each system. And if you're only making a few pennies on every system, how much quality control do you really think is going to go into the manufacturing process?

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Jimmy thanks for the very informative advice.

One more please. What about Spybot?

Thanks and have a great day.

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Spybot is a bit dated and can cause issues.

Specifically the Teatimer component has created some trouble. Given the newer scanners such as MBAM and SAS I no longer suggest Spybot and go one step further and uninstall it when I find it.

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Thanks Bob. I'll remove Spybot.
As you may have red I have : Microsoft Essentials Security and Malwarebytes.
What else can you recommend.?
Thanks again......Peter

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(NT) I just did!
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Security Software Recommendations.

I am a retired person with little money to spend.
Can you recommend an additional Security software to what I have that is possibly free.

I have Microsoft Essentials Security and Malwarebytes.
Compuer is a Lenovo with Vista Home Premium.

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Repeating my prior reply.

Given the newer scanners such as MBAM and SAS I no longer suggest Spybot and go one step further and uninstall it when I find it.

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