"It's February, and 900 of America's staunchest Christian fundamentalists have gathered in Fort Lauderdale to look back on what they accomplished in last year's election -- and to plan what's next... These are the evangelical activists behind the nation's most effective political machine... But despite their unprecedented power, fundamentalists still see themselves as a persecuted minority, waging a holy war against the godless forces of secularism.
" "Meet the Dominionists -- biblical literalists who believe God has called them to take over the U.S. government. As the far-right wing of the evangelical movement, Dominionists are pressing an agenda that makes Newt Gingrich's Contract With America look like the Communist Manifesto. They want to rewrite schoolbooks to reflect a Christian version of American history, pack the nation's courts with judges who follow Old Testament law, post the Ten Commandments in every courthouse and make it a felony for gay men to have sex and women to have abortions. In Florida, when the courts ordered Terri Schiavo's feeding tube removed, it was the Dominionists who organized round-the-clock protests and issued a fiery call for Gov. Jeb Bush to defy the law and take Schiavo into state custody. Their ultimate goal is to plant the seeds of a "faith-based" government that will endure far longer than Bush's presidency -- all the way until Jesus comes back.
" "Most people hear them talk about a 'Christian nation' and think, 'Well, that sounds like a good, moral thing,' says the Rev. Mel White, who ghostwrote Jerry Falwell's autobiography before breaking with the evangelical movement. "What they don't know -- what even most conservative Christians who voted for Bush don't know -- is that 'Christian nation' means something else entirely to these Dominionist leaders. This movement is no more about following the example of Christ than Bush's Clean Water Act is about clean water." "
http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/_/id/7235393?rnd=1113770493809&has-player=true&version=6.0.12.1040
Duck and cover, folks.
Rob Boyter
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Its a news report, you'll probably be able to confirm it on the internet.
Rob
Come on guys. Forget all the conspiracy nonsense. Use a little common sense.
And the leftist sites all over are in a tizzy about it, but..
here's a perhaps more level-headed take: http://www.foulweather.org/archives/2004_06.php
"Dominionists et al. are so far from being a "large segment of Christian Fundamentalism" - if Christian fundamentalism encompasses all the folks affiliated with evangelicals or even the mythic religous right - that it boggles the experienced mind. If even 2% of these folks where such, I would be surprised.
"So we've got what I think is a boogie man built on two divergent sets of peeps who happen to use similar language. Yet, in my opinion, narry the twain shall meet. Folks who read Tim LeHaye are no more trying to usher in the end times than readers of Harry Potter are attempting to enthrone the Wiccans - which would be far more entertaining if true."
And it looks like they may be attacked from..evangelicals (or whatever you call them. I can't sort out the various groups:
http://www.despatch.cth.com.au/Books_D/dom_theol.htm
But we'll keep an eye out. If the Prez nominates Chief Justice Roy Moore to the Supreme Court for instance, then we'll know.
So don't worry too much.
I still don't see the point. These groups are no different than many on both sides of the spectrum.
Rob,
PLEASE read Ed H's reply...it's very accurate and informative (this practicing Christian learned much from it).
Now, if you're somehow trying to imply that the Bush Administration is somehow trying to facilitate the aims of these so-called Dominionists, please give me three - just three - fully documented examples of this. Note: Abortion and Terri Schiavo do NOT count, just to name two; there were plenty of mainline Protestants, Jews, Catholics and Muslims who were and are opposed to both these things - unless, of course, what you're really trying to say is that no people of faith should be allowed to act in the political arena based on their beliefs.
If that's what you really mean by what seem to me to be repeated and unsolicited lapses into antireligious bigotry, then you are in essence imposing your own "theology" - militant secularism - on the majority of the population, which IMO is as blatantly anti-democratic as the actions of those whom you so shrilly decry in your post...
...am I correct that you're just as critical of liberal Democrats actively campaigning for the votes of the members of African-American churches (a far more flagrant violation of the separation of church and state than anything I can remember Republicans doing)?
If the answer is "no", Rob, then I suggest that your true motives are clearly on display for all to see; and honorable they're certainly not!
documented recently by better government groups in Illinois. So far, everybody gives it a wink and a nod.
I don't approve of anyone using the church for political purposes but I disagree strongly with your characterization of African American churches political activities as "far more flagrant", equally flagrant should be enough. They are however not nearly as widespread as the Republican efforts.
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Rob
political activities are the norm, not the exception. They are FAR MORE prevalent than Republican (?) efforts. Did you ever hear of the Reverend Jessie Jackson?
to one with a friend during the election. The reverend stated that Bush's plans were evil, would destroy their way of life. and he didn't want to hear about a single parishioner voting for Bush. Nope, no attempt to influence there.
Scene: an African Methodist Episcopal (AME) church in town.
Witness: A black friend of mine, who may be the only Republican in that congregation.
Action: two collections - the first to the church, and the second (and by my observation, much more productive) one to the Indiana Democratic Party.
Question: Shouldn't the parishioners been more committed to giving to the divine than the secular?
I filed a written complaint with the Federal Election Commission, which predictably wouldn't touch it.
The playing field is grotesquely uneven here...and no one seems to care.
supposed to lose their tax exempt status for doing things like that.
about the same group. Its views are even more pessimistic, not to say apocalyptic. I will post at greater length tomorrow.
Rob
Did you ever do any work on Sgt.Rock? I used to read him. He was my favorite comic.I used to go out of my way to get older Sgt.Rocks.
Maybe a cover sketch or two.
Those old Joe Kubert jobs were fantastic. My brother used to collect them but I concentrated on the super-heroes.
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