Reasons to hate Donald Trump?

FORMER president's statements THIS week....."Thank you Obama".....trying to take credit for the economic happening over the last ten months. When things were bad during HIS first term, he was quick to publicly blame GWB, but ALWAYS patted his own back when things went HIS way, even if they were bad for the country as a whole because they followed HIS agenda.

Come on, Bob.........be honest, at least. BO's EGO was, and still is, massive....and his agenda suited HIS personal policies and not the COUNTRY's, whereas Trump has been ALL about the PEOPLE and the COUNTRY. You may not like that he points out his accomplishments but if HE didn't do it, the media sure as hell isn't going to give him credit for any of it.

They all have big ego's.
You don't rise to be the prez without one.
BO inherited an economy going down hill.
Trump inherited an economy going up hill.
All Trump had to do was sit back and not screw it up.
He tries to take credit for something he had nothing to do with.
Trump does not give a hoot about you, me or anyone else.
Trump cares about Trump it's his vanity.

BO managed to take an economy going down and turn it around.
Did I like all of his policies....no.
The final economic result is history.
Besides that he was a dem and dems are GREAT.

"They all have big ego's.
You don't rise to be the prez without one." So you can't have it both ways, Bob. You rally against Trump's ego but excuse BO's. Gimme a break on that hypocrisy, please.

The economy during Bush was going downhill because of DEM's policies that put it into place during Clinton and pushed further by DEM's again when they took over Congress in 2006. The ONLY way BO supposedly HELPED turn it around was by now UNPATRIOTICALLY raising the National Debt and Deficit by TRILLIONS after blaming Bush for doing that with two wars going on. Again...total hypocrisy on your part. BO DOUBLED the National Debt with those moves along with dumping $85B PER MONTH into Wall Street making all of his supporters wealthy beyond all imagination while the country itself was in tatters. The economy was NOT going uphill, Bob....it remained totally STAGNANT for 8 freaking years with NO growth and people who were lucky enough to have a job actually had two or three PART TIME jobs because with Obamacare FULL TIME was redefined and non-existent....you can't say that about TRUMP'S economy after a mere 10 months. BO was perfectly happy to have people on the dole and keep it that way by making being on welfare better financially than working was. Trump believes in working for what you get. Has that concept disappeared in your lalaland?

I know you don't like Trump, but even YOU have to admit truth when it smacks you in the face at some point.

You add humor to the day when you pull out your grudge list and post some rant about BO.

Trumps economy moving up is the result of BO.
Nothing to do with Trump.

Now let's see if Trump and the repubs are going to crash it with their tax plan.
Give away to the donor base which they are trying to spin as a middle class tax cut.

Dems are great they got the economy moving forward.

that fact that the economy and employment stayed stagnant for the full 8 years of BO's time in office isn't a fact at all.....and that ONLY those at the very top (those that you accuse Trump of helping with his tax plan) were able to accumulate vast amounts of wealth because of BO's policy of dumping $85B per MONTH into Wall Street isn't even a reality? The Dems severely hurt the banking industry with Dodd/Frank, interest rates were non-existent (which is a REAL indication of how the economy is doing), and more people ended up on welfare, food stamps, or disability benefits when their unemployment benefits ran out than ever before in history.

You keep living in your fantasy world of 'Dems are great they got the economy moving forward', Bob.....reality isn't something you seem able to deal with.

But I DO have to agree with one statement you just made...."Trumps economy moving up is the result of BO." But you forgot to add that BO's policies were all bad and Trump has been systematically destroying all of them and putting the country back on track for the people.

An economy that was going down hill.
It would take serious money from the government to turn this around.
BO and the fed spent the needed money.
The result is the economy is moving up.

Dodd/Frank was because some in the financial industry got greedy and started playing fast and loose. It was a set of rules brought in to control this behavior.

In the next election when dems take control....as it should be....they will have a big job trying to straighten out the mess that the repubs created.

Then they are coming after gun loving/paranoid/righties.

You forget that BO blamed Bush for what he inherited.....and now you give credit to BO for 'turning around that economy' when he, in fact, made it much worse by doubling the National Debt, having five years in a row of over $1T in our annual deficit (all while claiming he was cutting the Bush deficit in half, when he actually only cut his OWN deficits in half during his last three years and put the deficit back to the same Bush numbers).

It didn't have to 'take serious money from the government to turn' things around, Bob....especially not to the tune of $83B per MONTH for 8 years all on the taxpayers' backs. It IS the taxpayers' money and NOT the government's money, right? He didn't have to 'forgive' billions of dollars of money owed via student loans and turn around and give Iran $1.7B in cash in the middle of the night. The 'economy' NEVER moved up under BO. It remained stagnant the entire time.

As for the 'financial industry' getting greedy.....You also seem to forget that not only did Clinton cause the housing crash by issuing orders to ease the lending policies of the banks for mortgages to people who would have never qualified under normal circumstances, but BO in his last two years issued the same exact orders all over again in order to make 'home sales' look better for the Dems' policies. The rules that Dodd/Frank imposed didn't control anything other than to force small banks in small communities to shutter their doors and allow bigger banks to take over them so, just like with the health insurance companies, a monopoly has occurred. Didn't the government go after Microsoft for being a monopoly because they controlled the entire industry at one point? MaBell years ago was forced to break up for the same reasons. Dodd/Frank was another way for the Dems to repay their big donor base because if you look at the actual numbers, you will see that those huge financial industries who benefited were all Dem donors. They went after the head of Wells Fargo, put him in jail for a year (thanks to Weismann on the Mueller team now), and had that conviction overturned by SCOTUS. IF the economy was going to honestly get turned around, the natural way to do it is to allow companies to fail and recover via bankruptcy or full closure instead of bailouts.

But your fantasy world is full of rose colored liberal glasses......dream on.

Election cycles and then the dems have control.

You gun loving/paranoid/righties are toast.

Dems are great.

Uh, i know that this is from a while ago, but do you have anything to back up anything youre saying? just wondering, cuz you keep saying stuff like Dems are great and whatnot, and dont really back it up
Thank

Hi Toni,

I know this is an old thread, but this looked like a good place to interject.

https://www.factcheck.org/2017/09/obamas-final-numbers/ < shows a more nuanced view.

I only hope you are right about Trump "putting the country back on track for the people". I've never had much faith in *any* president, Dem or Repub, though. There's just too many variables in global politics, and I'm afraid the United States' time in the sun has long passed, for many reasons - lack of long-term planning, lack of vision, tons of things we had little or no control over.

But I do hope you are right...

Rick

Can you give some evidence how Bob and the Dems made the economy spring forward? Welfare was better than most jobs for Pete sakes! Now look at the data black unemployment is the lowest it's been because many are waking up to see you need to work to make it. Trump didn't inherit nothing he got a million dollar loan but paid it back without corruption.

This old thread is closing. If you want to carry on, make a new post.
Discussion is locked.
Dafydd.

Bob after reading that you should have just stopped because if you argue to that you must live in your moms basement

Since YOU want to compare the PAST with the PRESENT

Hypocrite in chief': Trump trolled after old tweet on Obama's White House Hanukah party resurfaces

US President Donald Trump has once again triggered criticism and merciless taunts after one of his old tweets resurfaced in which he called Barack Obama "sad" for hosting the White House Hanukkah party early. This week, however, he did the same thing.

Back in 2011, Trump slammed Obama suggesting that the then president held the event early in order to go on vacation.

"Why was the Hanukah celebration held in the White House two weeks early? @BarackObama wants to vacation in Hawaii in late December. Sad," Trump tweeted in December 2011.

Trump hosted the White House Hanukkah party on Thursday (7 December) - five days before the Jewish holiday begins.

2 weeks before is early.... and so is 5 days before.

It is true what you said. The Donald has many faults, but show me, a president or other candidate who,is not a jumbled mess!

You say he can’t tolerate negative feedback but in other countries people will get killed for talking negatively about their leader.

Note that Kimmel and Cohen have Jewish backgrounds, so they should know of the command, from the King, at Ec 10:20. Doesn't mean they allow themselves to be subject to it. It's attached to Christian bibles as well; ditto Colbert and Leno.

as they cross the border illegally has been the practice/policy here for over 30 years....it's not a new Trump idea. Sorry to burst your bubble. And, in case you didn't know already, every AMERICAN citizen parent who breaks the law and ends up in jail over it has THEIR children separated from them as well. Do you give a crap or are you just interested in ILLEGALS who break the laws by coming here without permission to do so?

You sound exactly like an NPC in a video game. "Me hate orange guy, he's racist" Blah, blah, blah... etc. Do you libs ever actually think and do research for yourselves or do you just spew whatever you hear on CNN or Bill Mahr? "The US government are the same as the Nazis." Again, a classic NPC statement. Everyone says it, you're not special, and the point you're trying to make is ridiculous and irrational. You sound like a whiny college student who's "Gender Studies" and "Anthropology" professors have brainwashed into believing every word they say. "One day you will see the army coming down your street." Yeah, and I bet you'd have us repeal the second amendment because "Guns kill people". Even though that's the exact reason why we have that amendment there. And please, by all means leave. Please just go. We need less and less democrats and even less liberals in this country.

His downfall my a@$ dude do your research before you make a political opinion i mean come on give me a few reasons to not like donald and if you can't tell me why I cam tell you 289 reasons to like him in one website and here is the link to that https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping

Okay, show me the US presidents and Legislatures past and current who do not fit this description. This is a challenge. OK, they don't have that hair.

You sound like you repeat this a lot on social media

Who cares about his looks I just care what he does and currently he is doing better than most the presidents in U.S history like have you even done your research like look at this one site https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/trumps-list-289-accomplishments-in-just-20-months-relentless-promise-keeping one thing is sure he is a lot better than BO