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Re: XP to Vista upgrade issue.

by constantlee / January 31, 2014 7:41 PM PST

This Sony VGN-SZ3 XWP/C (was XP) has an annoying habit of "going into Standby mode" without warning or cause from me.

This happens infrequently but is a reliable pattern in any session lasting an hour or more perhaps. (overheating maybe?)

This L/T was an unwise buy from eBay and it has been a headache right from scratch.

A critical thing I have found since loading Vista on there is that there is No brightness control in the Power Settings as there would be on a native Vista machine.

If anyone can tell me how to overcome that it would be the answer to a make or break situation. I doubt anyone would be able to use the machine on full brightness for long.

Many thanks

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further to
by constantlee / January 31, 2014 7:55 PM PST

I should add that as a general feeling I am more inclined to strip it for parts than spend further time head-aching over the intricacies of Sony updates and related complications. I have noticed that windows updates take forever to complete, if at all and in some cases seem to get stuck at one stage for an unrealistic length of time which just prompts one to turn the thing off.
Overall it is a project that I would warm to IF I had endless amounts of time to devote to it, but I don't .... consequently it is a stress I don't need.

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I suspect...
by Willy / January 31, 2014 10:31 PM PST
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For brightness, the laptop should have dedicated keys to manually control the output. I find that most common in many laptops.

Next, since you're updating the Vista install. It will no doubt once online begin the patches from MS. These are SP1 and SP2, which can be gotten using any other PC to directly get those to install. Go to the MS download website and locate them or google for Vista SP? and locate the source as i trust MS still has them. Get those so you can directly install and be sure your AC powered and then apply. Yes, it will take time so be patient.

Then proceed to get the remaining MS updates, etc., after those because its a long process.

tada -----Willy Happy

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it does have
by constantlee / January 31, 2014 11:36 PM PST
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dedicated keys, Fn and F5/F6 but obviously they dont work yet.

The issue with the unwanted Standby is very off putting for the project. I would be open to ideas about how to begin looking to fix that although I realise it is probably quite involved. Yet another potential learning curve.

I will give your advice a shot Willy, many thanks again. lee

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they won't work until you load the driver files
by James Denison / February 1, 2014 12:31 PM PST
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they are not hardwired to do that, but work through software driver files from the manufacturer for Vista system on that computer.

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more importantly
by constantlee / January 31, 2014 11:40 PM PST
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will the updates for Vista & MS give the dedicated keys on an originally XP machine as mentioned, the means to lower and raise the brightness via those keys ... that is the question ??

da ta Happy

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During intial install
by Willy / February 1, 2014 4:25 AM PST
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You should have been prompted if this was a "laptop install" than a desktop or using minimized install, etc.. That would have provided many of the nuances of laptop operation and/or what MS provides, like battery options, etc.. This is now a mute point as I don't see if not done this way, you have to redo the whole install to be sure it gets done right. That alone should have defaulted to laptop install as it sees or should done so. You can check this under the "power options" or similar. I just recall where in Vista that would be located if not in the power setup but its there somewhere in control panel section. You can google for that of you like or recheck how even under XP it would be seen. But, it sould provide the laptop features in most cases at least the typical ones. I can't say for any super specialized or unique kybds..

tada ------Willy Happy

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I think it is likely,
by constantlee / February 1, 2014 4:58 AM PST
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I will need to redo the whole thing because the Sony automatic updates dont seem to be connecting. It keeps saying no updates available. I'm plodding through the individual updates but probably not doing them right. I have wasted days on this thing already and dont want to waste more.
Very grateful for your kind help Willy,

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that's probably because
by James Denison / February 1, 2014 12:34 PM PST
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of using a retail Vista upgrade on it. Sony won't recognize it as one of theirs anymore. However you can download the driver files from them and get it working OK.

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Don't use Sony updates for now
by Willy / February 1, 2014 11:52 PM PST
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Many OEM makers provide updates that maybe unique like Sony, but for the most part you need to use MS own update service. You should have that listed in the pgms, as only "windows update" rather than any Sony one. Get all those done and then goto the Sony side. At the same time it may tale longer at Sony because its not a newer system and has to go through "legacy type" operation to update. FYI, Sony can be a tiresome support as if doesn't readily available as easy as other support websites, IMHO.

tada -----Willy Happy

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sorry to say but
by constantlee / February 1, 2014 5:23 AM PST
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it has beaten me, its a no go. end of.
many thanks for everything.

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Put Linux on it.
by Dafydd Forum moderator / February 1, 2014 5:31 AM PST
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Great way to keep using it safer too.


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I will look into that Dafydd thanks ..
by constantlee / February 1, 2014 8:06 PM PST
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Never had anything directly to do with Linux but as a learning point I will take a look asap.

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you download the driver files
by James Denison / February 1, 2014 12:33 PM PST
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for that computer which match the operating system you are putting on it.
If the manufacturer didn't provide them, then you'd find out what chips are on the motherboard and download driver files from the chip manufacturer. If you pop in a Linux Live DVD and run the following command you can get all the info about the chips used.

inxi -v7

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Thank you very much for all your replies James but ..
by constantlee / February 1, 2014 8:15 PM PST

I have spent way too much time on it already and purely as a matter of conscience I cannot (much as I might otherwise have tried) allow myself to prioritise on that when there are more important things for me to get on with (so says the wife lol)

I have noted all your advices and will heed them in due course but as for this and now I need to close this thread please. In the meantime I will be offering it to a local "el cheapo" electrical store to put in shape, I really haven't got the time or patience for it any more.

God Bless you all !!

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