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Re: Database collections

With all the information that the Feds are cleaning and storing, I have to ask...

If the Pentagon can't protect their own computers from being hacked and enemies getting/grabbing high tech data, how can the Feds possibly protect billions of phone call, email, social networking data, including our medical records, social security numbers, banking info, etc. from being hacked from those same enemies. We already know that actual banks and other financial institutions have been hacked repeatedly, so does this mean that we as private citizens leave the digital world behind and get back to basics like putting money under the mattress in order to protect ourselves and only use walkie talkies instead of phones of any kind or ride bicycles or motorcycles that don't have tracking gear attached?

This is getting to be so wrong........at all kinds of levels.

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If the Director of the CIA can't have an affair.....

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.....without word getting out, your concerns are probably valid.

Since this is all being done under the umbrella of the Patriot Act, and has apparently been going on since (at least) 2006, I wonder how many of those who applauded the Patriot Act are now reevaluating their opinions.

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The terrorists have already won

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Even if we keep killing them one by one, the war on terror is already decided. We have taken our own selves hostage and there's no ransom amount that will free us.

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That's what Cheney, etal. did not understand

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They were willing to put the entire country into lockdown and call it "freedom." Whenever I heard Cheney speak I quietly thanked [insert name of preferred supreme being/entity here] that we had a Constitution.

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I didn't applaud the PA

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even though I could understand the logic for it.......the fact that we had no terrorist attacks or attempts in the US during the Bush terms after 9-11, I have to assume that at least the surveillance that was being done then was working correctly. I don't know the reasons, unless it's because there were far fewer expansions that BO has now put into place and far fewer people that were contracted out and checking was done by people who actually knew what they were supposed to be looking for rather than just a high-school drop out being given high security clearance to just collect the data and not really pay any attention to what he was looking at (and in this case, he actually could look and comprehend it all).

I most certainly don't approve of the vast expansions that are going on and have been going on since those days......and I sure as hell don't understand the logic behind a contractor being able to hire for high security clearance a kid who couldn't finish high school. And yet we are expected to trust the decision making that this administration adheres to......where there is not only no oversight but no accountability either. Now they are going after this kid as a traitor, but nobody is asking WHO LET THIS HAPPEN IN THE FIRST PLACE???????? And why aren't they on the hot seat?????????

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There were numerous attempts during Bush's terms, Toni

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Traitor

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There have been a number of officials calling him that publicly.......McCain, Graham, Boehner to name a few....along with a few Dems.

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Attempts

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All except Reid were foiled during the planning stages......Reid happened shortly after 9-11 and I don't think the PAct was in place yet; fortunately, the ******* only hurt himself because he was a total dumba$$ and inept.

As for the rest of the 'attempts'.....for the reasons I listed above, I think the agencies and policies put into place actually thwarted them and prevented them from happening. Now I think the agencies and policies are so heavily expanded and using inexperienced people to run and implement them that they can't work effectively anymore.

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I also take exception to "couldn't finish high school"

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People get GEDs for various reasons. I have a GED. I failed one class by two points in one semester at a very prestigious high school. My GPA was very good otherwise. It happens. It is not an automatic reflection on someone's intelligence or ability to complete something, and is considered the same as a high school diploma when it comes to college admissions. No schools turned me down on the basis of my having a GED.

The fact that he has a GED is really irrelevant to this story.

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So a GED qualifies

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him for high level security clearance? That's all you expect from our government to protect us, Josh? I'm glad YOUR expectations are so low that you would accept crappy qualifications for high ranking (oh, wait....it's OUTSOURCED) security here. Lovely.

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Many people

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working in the govt with no more than a high school diploma have top secret SCI clearances. Education alone is NOT the criteria on which such clearances are based, but on trustworthiness.

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Security clearance is based on background check

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For some levels, it's an EBC...E for "extensive". All that really means is what have you done so far that would make you a risk. After 4 or more years of college, some could actually generate reasons for not granting higher levels of clearance. Besides that, clearance alone doesn't grant you access to a single document.

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SCI

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It means Secret Compartmented Information. In other words, even with a Top Secret, you are limited to what your particular area is involved in and no access to Top Secret information from other areas unless prior approval is given for the exchange of information. At NSA all that goes through DIRNSA to be determined. A good book to read is Puzzle Palace. Wink

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In addition to what Steven, Diana and James said....

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.....what is the real problem here -- the fact that the NSA is stockpiling data on American citizens or the fact that someone squealed? Aren't you glad you found out? Attacking Snowden seems a bit like attacking a mob informant for "being a rat."

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It could show how bright he is

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Both of my sons were bored to tears in school and both dropped out and aced their GEDs. This seems to happen with boys more than girls. I know that I was bored most of the time in school but I just studied what the school wanted me to study and then expanded the subject into different areas.

Diana

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Even the concentration camps ended here eventually

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During WW2, so maybe this will end eventually too.

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Wait, wait, don't tell me.

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I thought we had these still?
Don't google "concentration camps in usa today."
Bob

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Martial Law?

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According to Snopes

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I watched one video

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and it focused on various things, ascribing stuff to them as regards future incarcerations, and the railroad tracks and then some old beaten up train engine with US Air Force on it, and I kept thinking it looks just like any abandoned commercial site. I'm sure a lot of it is fake, I just don't know how much.

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ALL of it is fake

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That one has been going around since his first term. Not one thing in that list is true.

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