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.RAR file question

Dec 21, 2005 12:41AM PST

Hey everone.

I have recently downloaded a file which is compressed in the .RAR file format.

I know that I can unpack it and it makes an .AVI file format for me, but I want it to be either a .CUE or .BIN file, is their anyway to do this?

I have searched online for hours, with no help. Thanks guys, keep it simple, i'm no mac genius!

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If this was me...
Dec 21, 2005 12:54AM PST

I'd use google.com to see what unrar program to use on the Mac. Check with download.com as well.

In closing, an AVI file is for video content and BIN/CUE is an CD/Disk image. Can you explain how these are the same? For me I could just toss the .AVI onto the CDR or DVDR media.

Bob

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.rar to .bin
Dec 21, 2005 1:03AM PST

Howdy.


Yea I can ''unrar'' the .RAR file, but its an .AVI and its a movie, so its too big to fit on a DVD and I would be able to do it if it was a .BIN or .CUE file. I wondered if there was a way to make a .RAR file become either a .BIN or .CUE file.

Any help would be appreciated, its all very complicated.

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Sorry, please think it over.
Dec 21, 2005 1:20AM PST

If it's too big to fit onto DVDR/W media then conversion to BIN/CUE won't help. Please think about why so we don't have to do so.

If you need to move said file to another machine via DVD recordable media (I'd use a portable hard disk) look up FILE SPLITTERS or even some ZIP/RAR/other program that will split the file at some size that fits.

All levels of expertise post here so don't feel slighted if it seems a bit much at first and do use your google.

Bob

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Dec 21, 2005 1:30AM PST

Im not sure I made everything quite clear.


I just want to know, I have an .AVI file, is it possible to make it a .BIN or .CUE file to it can fit onto a VCD, at the moment its too big to fit on one DVDR.

thanks.

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You need to really think about this.
Dec 21, 2005 1:43AM PST

The AVI file is a file that is too big. Let's say I had a VIRTUAL DVD-Recorder that could handle that file. Now I virtually record the .AVI to said virtual recorder and then using said software create the BIN/CUE file.

Your turn and my question to you is: How big would the BIN/CUE file be?

Please think very hard here. You seem to be missing it.

Bob

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do you think
Dec 21, 2005 10:09AM PST

he is still thinking about it?

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A 10 gallon hat holds how many gallons?
Dec 21, 2005 11:13AM PST

Let's hope they are.

Bob

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You would be suprised...
Dec 21, 2005 1:35PM PST

how many times I've seen someone think long about this...

How much dirt is in a hole, 1 yard wide, by 1 yard long, by 1 yard deep ?


grim

(metric measurement of 1 meter by 1 meter by 1 meter can be substituted for the rest of the world)

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It could be any amount...
Dec 21, 2005 4:11PM PST

...up to a cubic yard, as long as you don't have to assume the hole is in the ground.
A hole in any substance (other than dirt) can still be cosidered a hole, even if you fill it with dirt.

Yes?

As to substituting the rest of the world, this poses a problem. Are we substituting the hole, or the dirt? If we consider the universe as said hole, and only allow "the rest of the world" as subsitute for the dirt (excluding the moon, other planets, etc.) then the answer is = the volume of Earth.

On the other hand, if we consider Hawking's theory of space/time as a sort of "rubber sheet" pulled tight, with dents from gravitational forces...

...I'm sorry, what were we talking about?

Lampie

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Rubber sheets ?
Dec 22, 2005 9:45AM PST

The correct answer is... the mormons.
No, Sorry. was watching South Park just now.

No... the correct answer is that there is NO dirt in a hole !

nor any other substance (by strict definition that a hole is a void in the whole).

grim

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Semantics. (WAY off topic)
Dec 22, 2005 10:00AM PST

If you say that a hole is filled with dirt, it implies there is still a hole?

A hole in the ozone has something in it, just not ozone. if you fill it with ozone, there is no hole. fill it with other gasses, like air, , and it is still a hole in the ozone.

LOL
Lampie

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LOL
Dec 22, 2005 10:44AM PST

Merry Christmas, Seasons Greeting, Happy Holidays.

grim

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You're thinking in 3D, there's more.
Dec 21, 2005 3:48PM PST

When you record a ''DVD movie'' using iDVD for example, it won't let you put much more than an hour on the burn.
If you use Toast, sometimes you can get 1.5 or so on a disk. They figure the size requirements by time, probably because they use a single kbit per minute setting in the codec.
If you keep the file as an AVI, you can probably fit 2-3 or even 4 full length movies on the same disk.

Bin/Cue is (if I'm thinking of the right format) a Video CD format, that will run in most modern DVD players. The BIN file holds the movie, and is therefore large. The CUE file is kind of like a resource fork, giving the player information it needs to play the BIN file properly. It is therefore much smaller. If you are playing the file on a computer, using VLC for example, you don't need the CUE file at all.

So, by changing the format, (and the codec), you can put a video file on a disk than would not hold it as a VOB.

The ten gallon hat will hold an easy fifty gallons of popcorn, if you leave the popcorn in the kernel.

Here's the problem.
A BIN/CUE VCD is designed for 700 MB CD's. I don't think you will find software that will allow that format to be used on a blank DVD. I know Toast has problems with it. If you DO find software that does this, and it does play in consumer DVD players when you are done, please post what it is here, as it would solve a few problems I've been having with a client of mine, and his requests for video of past shows.


Thanks,

Lampie

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2 problems.
Dec 21, 2005 11:55PM PST

1. "Bin/Cue is (if I'm thinking of the right format) a Video CD format, that will run in most modern DVD players. The BIN file holds the movie, and is therefore large. The CUE file is kind of like a resource fork, giving the player information it needs to play the BIN file properly. "

What I've seen is that BIN and CUE are not unlike the ISO image of a disk and not a Video CD format. You can read about this on the CDR FAQ and other places but I've seen Nero and others create disk images (not confined to VCD) of such files.


2. "A BIN/CUE VCD is designed for 700 MB CD's"

I have a BIN/CUE of my kid's movie and it's 4.2GB. It's not a VCD.

Bob

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Will it play on consumer DVD players?
Dec 22, 2005 9:39AM PST

I tried to put BIN/CUE on a DVD about 6 months ago, but Toast would'nt go for it unless I had it set for CD. I tried a shareware program and ran into the same wall.
Will your kids movie play on a consumer DVD player? If so, what was your burning software?

Maybe I just missed some other problem, and thought it was due to the format. This could be a pretty cool solution for more than one client of mine, who want to save their show on a consumer level format. It often lands on my shoulders to make that happen for them.

Back to the drawing board...


Lampie

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Mine will.
Dec 22, 2005 9:43AM PST

For example, Alcohol 120% on the PC will make the DVD proper from this one. HOWEVER, I have since converted to a more acceptable .ISO file for safe keeping.

Bob

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No plans for a PC in the near future
Dec 22, 2005 10:07AM PST

I guess I'll take another crack at it from the Mac side. Can't have a PC doing things in multi-media a Mac can't do!

Guess I'll start by figuring out what was wrong 6 months ago.

It dawns on me that no one ever answered the original post.

Lampie

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Their answer is in these replies.
Dec 22, 2005 10:50AM PST

While I applaud your reply, it will not fix it.

Bob

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Sorry, got sidetracked.
Dec 22, 2005 10:11AM PST

The shareware program "Cuemaker" will make CUE/BIN files. iVCD might also be what you need.

I can't speak to putting it on a DVD, but ask me again in a week. I may have a different answer. (see post's below)


Lampie