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Question

RAM usage in idle ?

by Dec 19, 2016 9:34AM PST

Hi all, have this problem for a while now. Ram usage is extremely high while PC is in idle. 99% ram usage and 70-80% quite often.When i start the computer it's fine and then it starts slowly to increase to as i said 70-80 and finally 99%. Computer doesn't lag or lacks of performance even when 99% of the ram is used ?! If you know how to fix that s..t plsHappy aa and that happens in win 10 and win 7 alsoSad

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Clarification Request
You sure it's RAM and not CPU reading?
by James Denison Dec 19, 2016 12:41PM PST

Windows should only load into RAM what you have running as programs and data at the time. Some have claimed in W10 that Microsoft preloads updates and ISO for them to later link other users to download from YOUR computer, using YOUR bandwidth if it's deemed sufficient, and others claim even poor satellite service users. It's called "peer to peer" networking or sharing.

"Windows P2P

Microsoft came up with a great idea for delivering updates in Windows 10: peer-to-peer networking. By default your Windows 10 PC shares system files with other PCs on your home network and across the big, wide Internet, downloading and distributing updates without relying on Microsoft’s servers alone. "

If you are using wifi for connection, set to "metered" and that lets you control when you get updates.

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2975289/windows/how-to-cure-windows-10s-worst-headaches.html

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by James Denison Dec 19, 2016 12:51PM PST
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Sharing
by JordanMihailov Dec 20, 2016 8:12AM PST

I hope that is not the case. Right now i use windows 7.

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Cpu reading
by JordanMihailov Dec 20, 2016 8:14AM PST

I am sure. Processor in idle is at 0.8Ghz and barely loaded.

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Answer
Looks right.
by Former Forum moderator Dec 19, 2016 9:56AM PST

Windows since about XP should use all available RAM even if for a trivial purpose because it's faster than disk access. In short, Linux, Apple OS, Windows should use all the RAM being a virtual memory OS.

The idea of free memory is something from DOS days.

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Re:
by JordanMihailov Dec 19, 2016 10:13AM PST

I am not sure. I used win 7 more than few years and never had that problem. Same was with win 10 for a few months. I didn't tell but i have 16GB of ram and that issue started appearing from the last 1 2 months or so. I was using win 10 and rolled back to win 7. Same, few weeks good with 3 4 GB in idle and suddenly 16GB. Are you saying that this can be some virtual memory setting ?

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As long as performance is good.
by r. proffitt Former Forum moderator Dec 19, 2016 10:19AM PST

I don't look deeper. As to changes, updates happen, folks and Microsoft install things.

If you want to research this, dive in but from my view over the years, it's OK to have no free RAM in VM OSes.

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Can't resign
by JordanMihailov Dec 19, 2016 10:33AM PST

I am not satisfied with this. Maybe you are right but as you said i'll dig little deeperHappy I might find a solution Wink

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Fixing this
by r. proffitt Former Forum moderator Dec 19, 2016 11:49AM PST

Can result in free ram but lower performance. Free ram is a DOS idea.

If you want to see what's using ram, task manager can sort on memory use. There's also process explorer and more.

Let's hope you don't break something in order to get free ram.

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W7
by Bob__B Dec 19, 2016 6:00PM PST

If your now using w7 disable prefetch and super fetch.
How is on the web.

Use msconfig/startup and untick everything except your av.
You can start and stop apps on an as needed basis.

Boot the machine and use task manager/perf to watch the ram usage...physical ram not that cached or free ram number....as you run your normal stuff.

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Prefetch
by JordanMihailov Dec 20, 2016 8:18AM PST

What is prefetch and super fetch ? How to disable those ?

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(NT) How is on the web
by Bob__B Dec 20, 2016 4:38PM PST
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Prefetch, and why you may be using so much RAM
by kl505 Dec 20, 2016 4:52PM PST
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virtual memory is...
by James Denison Dec 19, 2016 12:33PM PST

....using disk space "as if" RAM. It's not the same as a "ram drive" which creates a virtual drive in RAM.

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both 7 and 10?
by James Denison Dec 19, 2016 12:53PM PST

Then this may need a new BIOS flashed to the motherboard, because unless Microsoft has also decided to utilize Windows 7 as a "bot" to supply others with updates from your computer, this would have to be BIOS related. Check your current BIOS settings, but may need to flash the latest.

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Bios
by JordanMihailov Dec 20, 2016 8:20AM PST

I updated my bios few months ago and i am sure it's the latest version.

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are you certain..
by James Denison Dec 20, 2016 4:23PM PST

,...your motherboard supports 16 GB of RAM?

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Sure
by JordanMihailov Dec 21, 2016 8:29AM PST

I have Asrock Z97Extreme4 so yes it supports. As for the BIOS i have to check if new one came out lately. I just don't understand how updating my bios would affect ram usage in windows ? Can you explain ?

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The motherboard has to address the RAM
by James Denison Dec 21, 2016 3:04PM PST

before Windows can access it, I think. All this new UEFI, I can't be sure on that, but I've seen so many complaints about UEFI problems, I sure would check it out.

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Gonna try it.
by JordanMihailov Dec 22, 2016 8:07AM PST

Went to Asrock' s web site and turns out that there is a 2.50 version and i have 2.30 so ill update it to see if your theory will helpHappy

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great
by James Denison Dec 22, 2016 8:21AM PST

let us know how it goes.

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Answer
Chrome can use a lot
by Dec 21, 2016 9:10AM PST

Look in task manager>processes. Is anything using a lot of RAM that shouldn't be? Windows uses more if it's available. Chrome can use a lot. Like everyone else said you bought the RAM so it could be used

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Chrome
by JordanMihailov Dec 21, 2016 9:18AM PST

It's not chrome Happy

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Answer
Why fix this?
by Former Forum moderator Dec 21, 2016 9:34AM PST

"Computer doesn't lag or lacks of performance even when 99% of the ram is used"

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Because.
by JordanMihailov Dec 22, 2016 8:00AM PST
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Chrome is known to eat RAM.
by r. proffitt Former Forum moderator Dec 22, 2016 8:08AM PST

I'm unsure how much research you did on this so here we are with some well known topics and fixing a machine that doesn't lag or lacks performance.

It's your choice here but if you exit Chrome, you might see the memory returned.

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I tried to look at the picture.
by Kees_B Former Forum moderator Dec 23, 2016 11:53AM PST

I had to press button, answer a captcha and then only got an ad. After 5 seconds of looking to a foreign language ad, I gave up.

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Picture
by JordanMihailov Dec 24, 2016 12:37AM PST

How to upload picture from my pc ?

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I use Imgur.com to share pics.
by r. proffitt Former Forum moderator Dec 24, 2016 2:35PM PST

Pretty painless to share the link to the pic.

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Usage
by JordanMihailov Dec 25, 2016 1:21AM PST
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