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Ram or Processor

Nov 16, 2009 5:36AM PST

Hi guys,

I'm comparing thin and lights, and the Asus UL models have the Intel Pentium 7300 processor with a max of 4gb of ram, while the Toshiba s105, which is $300 less has the 4100 processor, with 4gb of ram but a max of 8gb.

I don't need a powerhouse, but am curious if the extra 4gb of ram would equate to approximately equal performance in tasks like email, basic photo and video (Picasa and Flip). From a budgeting perspective, I like the idea of buying cheaper now, and then in 12 months time or so purchasing the extra RAM.

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For your use ...
Nov 16, 2009 5:46AM PST

4 GB of RAM is more than enough. You probably won't even notice the difference with 2 GB.

By the way, you need a 64-bit OS if you want to use more than 3.5 GB.

Kees

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8GB compared to a 7300 processor
Nov 16, 2009 5:54AM PST

I'm more curious to know if the extra 4GB of ram (going from 4 to Cool will make up for the slower processor

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Consumer fleecing.
Nov 16, 2009 6:21AM PST

Let's be brutally honest here. At the office we tested Windows 7 on 512MB and 1GB machines it it ran just like XP did. Just fine.

The consumers are being taken to the cleaners.
Bob

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Huh
Nov 16, 2009 7:01AM PST

What does running just fine mean? I've personally noticed when adding more RAM that it improves performance.

I'd really appreciate a direct answer to my question,

thanks,

Wade

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There are good articles about this.
Nov 16, 2009 7:16AM PST

At 256MB it ran.
at 512MB it ran fine.
at 1GB it ran a little better.
at 2GB we couldn't tell if it was doing any better.

Now you want to go from 4GB to 8GB?

Don't pay for that!
Bob

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Your not exactly correct.
Nov 16, 2009 8:36AM PST

Also, RAM doesn't equal processing power. Any ram your not using is simply wasted money, and 99 percent of the time your not going to use over 1.5GBs. Whereas, you use the 'whole' processor.

Get the best possible processor. For most people, 4GBs of memory is more than enough.

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thanks
Nov 16, 2009 10:37PM PST

Thanks, that answers the question

I appreciate it.

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(NT) your welcome!
Nov 17, 2009 4:09AM PST
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Actually it depends on how you use the computer.
Nov 17, 2009 12:22PM PST

For gaming the processor is a bigger factor and for multi-tasking memory is a bigger factor. The thing about memory is the less you use of the page file which is a file on your hard dive. The speed of using the hard drive versus memory is significant.

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More RAM/Processor questions..
Nov 19, 2009 12:36PM PST

If I may jump onto this thread...
I'm in the process of refining laptop specs for a lenovo and was considering upgrading from 2GB to 3GB of RAM. If I'm following what you're saying, do you think it would be more worthwhile to spend the money to upgrade the processor from
Intel Core 2 Duo Processor P8600 (2.40GHz 1066MHz 3MBL2)
to
Intel Core 2 Duo processor P8700 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 3MBL2

I'm pretty new to this and while I understand the extreme basics of processor architecture I have no idea how much of a difference is present between those two. I will not be gaming but do tend to run programs that can get sluggish on my current laptop (photoshop etc).

Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks Happy

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The comparison of those 2 CPUs is linear.
Nov 19, 2009 10:02PM PST

Since they are identical expect for speed we can take liberty with the analysis and state this.

1 Second CPU time on the 2.4GHz CPU may drop to 0.95 seconds on the faster CPU. Not exactly time that a human would notice.

I'm surprised this class machine is not fitted with the usual 4GB RAM.

Is this some black friday special?
Bob

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Thanks
Nov 20, 2009 2:37AM PST

HI Bob-

No, it's just a setup from Lenovo. Using their 15% off coupon it comes out to under $800 which seems like a pretty good deal to me.

Thanks for your input!

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Is increasing RAM tied up to your processor speed?
Nov 20, 2009 12:03PM PST

My Acer 4720 laptop has an Intel Core Duo processor T5250 ( 1.5GHz, 667MHz, 2MB L2 cache ), RAM is listed at 1GB DDR2.

Does increasing RAM to 2GB or 3 GB make any sense if the processor can only handle 1.5GB?

Thanks for any insight!

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If you're only able to address 1.5...
Nov 20, 2009 1:33PM PST

Then quite honestly you're not doing your processor or your pocketbook any help by upping the RAM ante.

For some, the decision to bump up RAM really sits best when they look to upgrade PCs and go with the 64-bit OS.

Cheers,
Ron
Windows Outreach

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Thanks!
Nov 20, 2009 8:29PM PST

Thanks for the advice!

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nope...
Nov 24, 2009 11:02PM PST

You can put as much RAM as your OS will support; It has nothing what so ever to do with the processor frequency. However, if you've got a 32bit OS, then you can only use up to 3GBs of RAM. I've got a 1.73GHz AMD CPU in one machine and 3GBs of memory; it works fine. Now, that said, you probably won't need more than 1.5GBs of memory anyway, unless your a heavy user. AND, the CPU that you listed doesn't sound too great it's self, so you'll be limited by that as well, no matter how much memory you put in the machine.

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Using the whole processor in necessarily true especially
Nov 30, 2009 9:11PM PST

with Duo and Quad core processors. When comparing processors you comparing clock speeds and memory is a capacity and not speed per say. More memory means that you have faster cache so your system stores data in memory and not on your hard drive. Retrieving from memory is MUCH faster then retrieving from your hard drive.

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a guide
Nov 30, 2009 5:01PM PST

RAM = quick file and folder access
CPU speed = fast running programs
Fast hard drive(s) = both the above when you run out of RAM.

More RAM is better.