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Qucken XG 204

May 9, 2014 9:10PM PDT

I was having trouble installing Quicken 2004 because the file :- MFC70.dll was missing well I found a site and downloaded and pasted the file into the program, all well and good I managed to restore my saved file and the proceeded to bring everything up to date which took some time as it was some time ago since my HD failed to make sure I stayed up to date I proceeded to back it up and the whole program froze the only way I could get out of it was CAD so I deleted the program reinstalled it (and the missing file) then did a trial back up the same thing happened any ideas out there?

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Sure
May 10, 2014 12:02AM PDT

Sure, upgrade to a newer version of Quicken. It's not just as simple as pasting in a specific file because all too often companies will distribute their own custom versions of DLL files like that. So unless you have the exact one needed by that particular program, you can run into problems like you did.

Plus, depending on how the program was written, it may simply not be possible to make it work on Windows 8. It's a roughly 10 year old piece of software, so if Intuit strayed outside the bounds of the Windows API, which is very likely if TurboTax is anything to go by, that means all bets are off as to how long it will work with future versions of Windows. Some security patch or Microsoft simply starting to enforce a rule that has been in place for several years, could cause the program to break irreparably.

The other reason you upgrade periodically is that given the program version you're using is ~10 years old, there's a decent chance newer versions of Quicken won't even be able to import it. The general assumption being that people have upgraded somewhere along the way. Those people who didn't are stuck trying to figure out how to deal with this old format file that can't be used with the current version.

Luddite and/or laggard tendencies do not behoove you in the technology world. You need to be flexible and able to adapt to changes quickly else you get left behind and have to deal with situations exactly like you're facing now when you can't hold out any longer.

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quicken
May 10, 2014 12:45AM PDT

unfortunately the 2014 version is not available in the UK nor is any version after 2004, why this is stupid as there is a great demand for an uprated version, I have been onto the Quicken forums nobody could help, there doesn't seem to be ahy other program available Microsoft Money was usless so I am stuck with trying to get this one working

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In that case
May 10, 2014 2:05AM PDT

In that case, I'd start looking for an alternative ASAP. I have no idea if it will be able to import your Quicken data or support the features you need, but a good place to start might be GNUCash. If it doesn't quite do what you need, it was free so you're only out a little time and effort.

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quicken
Sep 29, 2014 9:11PM PDT

just to update this question I have managed to install the program and it works fine don't know why, but I am not going to worry about that as it is working fine, also as a matter of interest I had an old copy of AutoCAD 2000i I have got this working as well no trouble with registration just works, it a pity that Autodesk couldn't do what Adobe did and allowed you to use their complete CS2 suite
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Qucken XG 204
May 10, 2014 10:34PM PDT

Thanks Jimmy Greystone your explanation is really helping.

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Quicken
May 11, 2014 3:38AM PDT

I have managed to imput data into Quicken and if I then just turn it off I it saves the data so it is there when I start it up again but if I try to save it, it locks up the default backup file is suggested as .A. And if I try to change it it locks up which is a most frustrating thing I still have not tried the other computer as I have to install 7 on it but I have got a floppy on that machine so it might work, I may see if I can get another copy of Q 2004

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You may need to export/import
May 12, 2014 8:55PM PDT

See what formats your version will export to. The aforementioned Gnucash requires QIF which is rather old. My guess is that your main issues will be saving your old data and setting up your currency with a US edition.

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I see the US Amazon has it for $9
May 10, 2014 2:15AM PDT

I also checked for it on the UK Amazon and didn't find it. Here're a couple of things you could try. First you could invest $9 USD in the US version, install it, and save the DLL, then install the UK version & copy that DLL to see if it would get you by. Another alternative would be to find someone who has the UK install CD and make a copy of it.
I have to say it's too bad Intuit in it's wisdom chose to discontinue the UK version, but I've seen them do other things I didn't understand as well. I wish I knew of a better alternative. Good luck.

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quicken
May 10, 2014 3:00AM PDT

fingers crossed I seem to have it working, although I have avoided doing a backup, it did come up with the message about backup which is reasuring I but as I have entered the data twice and I am tired I thought I would cross that bridge tomorrow who knows it may be OK, Thanks

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High Tech Exit.
May 10, 2014 2:16AM PDT

Go get Virtual Box, install a compatible Windows Vista or 7 in that, then install Qucken XG 204 in Vista or 7 in that virtual box.
Bob

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You beat me to it, Bob!
May 10, 2014 3:16AM PDT

I was about to come back and suggest that - d*mn good idea! Grin Another possibility would be to find a PC with Windows 7 Pro and try installing in XP Mode - unsupported though that is now. At least with Vista he'd have a supported OS.

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Or even
May 10, 2014 5:12AM PDT

Or even find an old XP era box and just make sure it's not connected to the Internet and is used purely for this legacy program. Unless you live in some tiny little hamlet out in the countryside somewhere, there's bound to be someone with an old computer they're looking to get rid of within a pretty reasonable distance. Craigslist, eBay, if there's a Freecycle in the UK... All of that is a possibility for finding such a machine. Then as soon as you can find some suitable replacement program, you take it to some electronics recycling place and be done with it.

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Here, we have FreeCycle.
May 10, 2014 5:28AM PDT

Old 486s, Pentiums show up a lot. It's not an app you would use daily (most folk) and a business would never stand on such an old app.
Bob

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Quicken
May 12, 2014 7:28PM PDT

I rightly or wrongly I have forked out for a US copy of Quicken 2014, now just wait for howls of anguish as I find it will not work in the UK

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I'd be very careful about that
May 12, 2014 11:36PM PDT

I'd be very careful about that. In the US we use an accounting system known as GAAP (Generally Accepted Accounting Principles) and the UK uses something different. I forget what it is off the top of my head, but it's one of the things you learn about if you follow HP's claims of fraud on the part of Autonomy, a company they bought and subsequently wrote down to the tune of several billion.

So the US version of Quicken will very likely be using GAAP rules instead of the rules used in the UK and that could trigger a visit from your friendly neighborhood Inland Revenue agent. Personally, if possible, I'd cancel the order and get my money back rather than risk this, but at a minimum be sure you are VERY careful to comply with the tax laws of the UK and EU.

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quicken 2014
May 13, 2014 2:15AM PDT

I shall only be using it (hopefully) to keep track of my home budget of which I have about 15 years worth,
what puzzles me is that I can open 2004 and exit it and any changes I have made are retained if I try to save it it locks up if I try to print from it it locks up it just doesn't seem tohave installed everything maybe if I load the new program then try to reinstall 2004 it will work

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Have you looked into P.B.S.A. software?
May 13, 2014 2:44AM PDT

I signed on to Amazon.co.uk and did a search for money management software for Windows. It pointed me to P.B.S.A at www.mi-shop.co.uk. I know nothing about it other than the UK Amazon pointed me to it and what it says on the web site. However the site says it will import Quicken data and do much of what Quicken does. They're asking 35 pounds for it.
I just figured there has to be something that will do what you want for folks in the UK, and from the looks of it, this might be worth trying. I also noticed that there're a good number of programs for tablets out there. Again I haven't tried any of these because I'm in the US and Quicken 2013 is working fine for me.
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Good luck.

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re another computer
May 10, 2014 8:35AM PDT

I have such a spare computer and with Windows 7 Pro so will have a go

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You'll want to keep this article handy.
May 10, 2014 8:41AM PDT
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That DLL is sometime installed
May 12, 2014 9:54PM PDT

is the application folder and in the system folder C:\windows\System32. Dll's are libraries that applications use to do universal type things. I did a search on that DLL on my work pc and found 2 versions one in the system folder that was dated 2008 and one in an application dated 2002 (yet they both are the same size). If the DLL is missing from the application folder it will attempt to use the one in the system folder and it might not contain the code needed for the Quicken app.