Once upon a time,
I SAID:"I added in under $100 used and fits in pocket later 'casue I didn't want recomendations like oh, this $500 dufelbag camcorder has a big lens and 3 image chips. it will be bright."
BOB SAID:"I have yet to see a 3 chip small camera for 100 dollars even used unless it wasn't so small and was broken."
what I SAID was ment so that any input wouldn't go past my price range. i.e. a $500 duffel-bag-sized cam with 3 image chips that will be bright. I should have wrote it with quotes indicating the reply from another person like this: I added in under $100 used and fits in pocket later 'casue I didn't want recomendations like "Oh, this $500 dufelbag camcorder has a big lens and 3 image chips. It will be bright."
BOB:"You appear to have other discussions on this and have tried a camera already"
yea i sure do, good thing I made them cause I would never have know that all the tiny dime-sized lenses produce low light quality, I thought it was just the JVC Picsio. I tried searching and there are 9hundred something threads when searching varying combonations of "low light chip lens". i looked through a lot of them and they are not helpful in my case, so I made this thread.
Anyway I'll just assume that lux and image sensor size are the main factors determining brightness. If a cam has a quarter-sized lens and the same lux and CMOS sensor size as a dime-sized lens than the quarter-sized one will just have better zoom.
http://www.camcorders-only.com/ has a lot of useful reviews. VERY extensive comparisons etc if anyone happens to search this thread out in the future and is looking for help.
The end.