Proper port triggering timeout time? Mine too short?

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Proper port triggering timeout time? Mine too short?

by Richard_the_Investigator Apr 10, 2012 10:52AM PDT

So, today I finally got myself to learn and implement port triggering. I've been using port forwarding (primarily for gaming) but I've gotten to the point where I have an Xbox, laptop, and a 3DS that all game online and all work best with the same ports forwarded. So, I set up a basic port triggering. Works well,

My question has to do specifically with the port triggering timeout length. Specifically, I want to know if having it too short can have adverse effects. If I'm just turning on a system I'm fine, but it's not uncommon to be playing with friends on the Xbox and we all suddenly decide to switch up to a PC game, and I'm stuck with a moderate NAT for an hour waiting for the timeout to happen.

So, ideally I would want the timeout to be pretty short, perhaps only a few minutes. I might even experiment with it at 1 minute, heck. My question is, will having the trigger time that short cause any unintended side effects? I've tried to research the topic, but haven't found much.

Thanks!

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by Richard_the_Investigator Apr 10, 2012 11:26AM PDT

Would love to. 2 issues -

-DMZ doesn't seem to function properly. Originally had the Xbox on Port Forward, 3DS on DMZ, and nothing for the PC because I didn't really game on that too much previously. With the 3DS on DMZ, I would still have connection issues, but I figured it was Nintendo's normally awful online service.

The other day, in working on this problem, I put the PC on port forward, and the Xbox on DMZ. A few titles will tell you in game what your NAT is, and even DMZ'd the Xbox would come up as moderate. Since I placed everyone on port triggering, the 3DS now works online so far, so I'm going to have to assume that my router's DMZ feature isn't actually a fully DM'ed Z.

- I have 3 devices that all want the same ports. If it was 2, and the DMZ worked proper, I could DMZ a game console and port forward the laptop. But, I don't, I can't, so I won't.

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That nailed it for me. That's a bad router.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Apr 10, 2012 11:29AM PDT

If placing things into the DMZ fails, that's my clue the router is borked. See if they have new firmware and again, I didn't do any research as I've never had a reason to change that number. The default worked and I was done.

Then again, my router seems fine. Too many have flaws.
Bob

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PS. What I did years ago.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Apr 10, 2012 11:34AM PDT

Before routers we had to create our own. So I partnered with a small firm and we made routers in the 90's. That worked very well and thousands later we saw the Linksys and such spin up so we closed down that company and supported our stuff for another decade.

Learned a lot from that and mostly that a lot of routers are less than perfect, plus most of the time the defaults do work fine. However you will encounter folk that will research and test all parameters to find some optimum.

You have to have met an user like that?
Bob

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And

by Richard_the_Investigator Apr 10, 2012 11:30AM PDT

Also, I realized this isn't in the most appropriate forum. This is my first time here, so I put it in the wrong place. I'm going to repost this in the networking forums.

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r. proffitt · Answer 1 · Apr 10, 2012 11:15AM PDT

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Let me skip research and ask this.

by r. proffitt Forum moderator Apr 10, 2012 11:15AM PDT

What not put the game console into the DMZ and forget about this?

Proper port triggering timeout time? Mine too short?

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