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Problem with Firefox and

by Rob10 / November 22, 2005 10:52 PM PST

I can't seem to login to any of my MSN related websites, such as My MSN, or MSN Hotmail. Every time I type my email address and PW into the login box, I get "Error establishing an encrypted connection to Error Code: -8075." It is set to accept cookies. I haven't used Firefox too much for this reason, so I admit I'm not too savvy yet.
Any ideas?

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What you need to know.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 22, 2005 11:46 PM PST

ActiveX is the road the exploits ride in on. If any website depends on ActiveX then Firefox, Mozilla and other browsers may fail. There is no cure planned since it's asking for exploits that IE allows.

For what few sites that don't work with Firefox, Mozilla I'll use IE. But on my list that's just one which is Windows Update.


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In other words...
by Rob10 / November 23, 2005 12:22 AM PST
In reply to: What you need to know.

Firefox doesn't work with Microsoft's Passpoet login system, and therefore Firefox will, by design, never work with My MSN and Hotmail?

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How odd.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / November 23, 2005 12:54 AM PST
In reply to: In other words...

I can use Hotmail fine. MSN is something you'll have to test and determine.

-> If you are looking for a browser that works on all sites, it's not IE, Firefox, Mozilla, Netscape or Opera. Is this a flaw?


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(NT) (NT) Perhaps I'll look up the error code
by Rob10 / November 23, 2005 1:14 AM PST
In reply to: How odd.
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by John.Wilkinson / November 23, 2005 1:17 AM PST

In order to resolve this problem, go tools->options->advanced, expand "validation," and under OCSP, check "Do not use OCSP for certificate validation." (I'd also suggest going tools->options->privacy and clear your cache to help reduce the chances of the error reoccurring.) If that doesn't work, you'll need to uninstall Firefox (using add/remove programs), then delete your profile. (Click here for instructions, making sure you backup your bookmarks.html and bookmarks.bak files.)

Now, Hotmail is a special case. The current version works with Firefox, although you need to download eWebMail in order fr the formatting options to appear/work. (Same used to be true for Yahoo! Mail, but that was recently fixed.) With the beta version of Windows Live Mail (the successor to hotmail), though, Firefox is not an option. Upon logging in I was told that the browser is not compatible, and after proceeding I found that the page is disfigured and none of the links/options work. Thus, it appears Hotmail will soon be an Internet Explorer-only service, unless changes are made before it goes public.

Hope this helps,

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Ding, Ding, Ding
by Rob10 / November 23, 2005 11:13 PM PST
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Yeaaa, we have a winner! Thanks John, that did it. I assume changing the certificate validation process doesn't cause any security risks?

I usually use the Clear All Information button when I close Firefox, but I suppose I can just clear cache so I don't have to re-enter all the other stuff like passwords etc.

I tried "download eWebMail" but got We're sorry, but the page you requested could not be found. What is it?

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by John.Wilkinson / November 24, 2005 12:00 AM PST
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Glad that worked! OCSP is simply an additional way to verify that a site's certificate is legitimate and still valid. It's not enabled by default, and while disabling it does remove an optional layer of security, it does not cause any security risks and never helped me while it was enabled. My setup includes ZoneAlarm Pro. firewall ($50, but home version is free), several antispyware utilities (including Webroot Spy Sweeper ($30), SpyBot (free), Microsoft Antispyware (free, Windows 2000/XP only), AdAware (free for home version), and Spyware Blaster (free)), the Netcraft Toolbar (free), which helps detect phishing sites, and the setting of Firefox to prompt before installing a cookie (go tools->options->privacy->cookies->ask me every time). While most of that is not required, and considered overkill, it has prevented me from being infected by malware (including tracking cookies) for the past several months.

As far as eWebMail goes, it's an extension for Firefox that enables the formatting toolbar in the Hotmail e-mail service. (It used to be required for Yahoo! Mail as well, but Yahoo recently patched the incompatibility issue.) To download it, click here. (Sorry about the previous link...I miss-copied-and-pasted.)

Hope this helps,

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