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Of course, duckman.....and the East German swimmers
Jun 28, 2007 1:00AM PDT

....... booze and other substance abuses contribute to physical abuse of others a whole lot more often than steroid use which is far less common.

Re: the aftermath of the East german female swimmers:

The "wonder girls" won virtually every gold medal they competed for but now, years later, they, and their children, are suffering from the steroids given to them. The women experienced birth defects, enlarged hearts and gynecological problems; one former swimmer said that she had seven miscarriages.

http://serendip.brynmawr.edu/biology/b103/f00/web2/naimzadeh2.html

Angeline
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Even for anecdotal evidence that's a telling record.
Jun 27, 2007 2:05PM PDT

I'll add one that's first hand, on grounds it was an autobiographical newspaper piece about an English bodybuilder. He noticed the changes under discussion in himself after beginning a steroid regimen. (Again, not under legal MD supervision.) He saw the changes. Period.

Part of his account would be humorous in another context: He had a girlfriend in the same situation. He said their sex life became generally unsatisfactory- intensely physical but not much emotional connection. Even said, 'Once we came home from a meet and fell onto the couch together; you could hear our armor clashing.'

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from whjat I've read and heard
Jun 28, 2007 12:24AM PDT

while roids may be a factor it was not a scene of rage. The wife was found strangled, wrapped in a towel with her hands and feet bound with a bible laid beside her, she was killed Friday. The son was found in bed with a bible beside him and killed on Saturday, they also discovered that they had been injecting him with HGH. Benoit hung himself in his gym late Saturday or early Sunday.

They are saying the scene looks deliberate and thought out not like the acts of an enraged individual.

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they are saying now that the boy was killed
Jun 28, 2007 12:45AM PDT

with a choke hold and that he had his knee in his wife's back while he strangled her with a cord.

He killed his wife because she couldn't care for the boy

He knew he was going to jail and there was no one to take the boy so he killed him

after that what is there to do but kill yourself?

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It is getting complicated.
Jun 28, 2007 7:39AM PDT

Having said that, I look over my posts and see too much certainty of diagnosis which ignores the obvious: A very sad story from any angle.

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I have it on good authority...
Jun 28, 2007 5:23PM PDT

....he didn't do it because he had Wheaties for breakfast. Of course he might have been upset he wasn't on the box. It's an angle of blame that should be explored.

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Wikipedia told of death 14 hours before bodies found
Jun 28, 2007 8:30PM PDT

Investigators are looking into who altered an online encyclopedia's entry for Canadian wrestler Chris Benoit to mention his wife's death hours before authorities discovered the bodies of the couple and their 7-year-old son.

Benoit's Wikipedia entry was altered early Monday to say that the wrestler had missed a match two days earlier because of his wife's death.

A Wikipedia official, Cary Bass, said yesterday that the entry was made by someone using an Internet protocol address registered in Stamford, Conn., where World Wrestling Entertainment is based.

More....

It seems that maybe there could be more detail out there on the alleged text messages he sent. Who really knew what and when did they know it?

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WOW, that's a headliner for sure!
Jun 29, 2007 12:52AM PDT

Wouldn't it be something if further investigation showed it not suicide at all? This just keeps getting weirder.

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(NT) Curiouser and curiouser ...
Jun 29, 2007 8:31AM PDT
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Toxicology results back now.
Jul 17, 2007 7:48PM PDT
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Forethought?
Jul 17, 2007 9:02PM PDT

Not "roid rage"?

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Roid Rage?
Jul 18, 2007 5:22AM PDT

The wife's death may have been due to that, but obviously the son's wasn't.

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Sooooooooooooooooo many
Jul 18, 2007 7:48AM PDT

speculated that it was a result of "roid rage".

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And you speculated that it wasn't.
Jul 18, 2007 11:36AM PDT

Whole lotta speculating going on!

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(NT) I suggested we didn't know at the time
Jul 18, 2007 12:23PM PDT
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(NT) A plausible suggestion indeed.
Jul 18, 2007 1:19PM PDT