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he was one hell of an athlete
Jun 26, 2007 1:17PM PDT

a sad loss to the wrestling world


jonah

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The price of success, perhaps.
Jun 27, 2007 2:02AM PDT

At 40 yrs old, it's hard to keep up a 'saleable' physique unaided. If the steroids were a factor, it's a reminder of what we can do to ourselves without thinking.
I can imagine him being asked, 'Why do you keep wrestling- it's a tough life?' 'Yeah, but it lets me support my family very well.' Sad

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Self Absorbed
Jun 27, 2007 3:08AM PDT

Sad scene, but taking out the wife and kid too is pure selfishness. Who did he think he was to make such a decision for them? He's a murderer.

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(NT) The guy most likely had some mental issues
Jun 27, 2007 3:13AM PDT
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To strangle a woman is usually either
Jun 27, 2007 5:04AM PDT

a stranger psychopath or a very bad marriage. So far, no sign of the latter, so what made him act like a stranger? Steroids always a good bet.

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It means anger, not a bad marriage
Jun 27, 2007 5:23AM PDT

Ever done steroids? Ever been around people that did steroids? Have there been many double blind studys on the effects of steriods (over use) ? It's laughable that the media jumps to that conclusion. I have yet to hear about any East German Women's track team member going "roidal".

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(NT) So your saying steroids don't effect mood?
Jun 27, 2007 6:47AM PDT
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(NT) What type of people use steroids?
Jun 27, 2007 6:57AM PDT
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Hey, I'm just asking.
Jun 27, 2007 7:11AM PDT

I have seen TV shows that tracked people when they began using steroids (under the supervision of a Dr ). The one show I saw was about trying to turn a middle aged guy back to the former college athlete he had been - reminded me of me Wink. Anyway... the guy vastly improved physically but ended up quiting because of side effects including fighting with his wife.

I'm no doctor, but anecdotally I have heard of many sources which claimed that steroids effect mood. Only folk I have ever heard of that claimed steroids don't effect mood were people in favor of using them. I guess I should have asked you if you are in favor of steroid use by athletes?

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Fighting with his wife?
Jun 27, 2007 7:16AM PDT

That wasn't done before the roids? Do you think he was under more stress while trying to get back into shape? For the most part, steroid users are not chess team, trekies that live in basements spending their days playing video games.

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(NT) So you're in favor of steroid use?
Jun 27, 2007 8:23AM PDT
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I was referring to the "weapon".
Jun 27, 2007 10:07AM PDT

Marital argument can end with a backhand slap (could be fatal, in this case), sudden grabbing and using of a gun or object, throwing a chair, etc. All 'weapons of passion'. Strangling takes several seconds at least, usually looking the victim ('the mother of my child') in the eye. Some sort of rage behind that. In this case, and the information comes from users and ex-users, heavy steroid use may be a factor. And remember the use is outside the regular medical system, both as to medication and monitoring.

This just in: 'They argued over child care'. Doesn't change anything I wrote.

/s/ Voice of Experience (the anger, not the drugs)

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Sigh of a bad marriage...
Jun 27, 2007 9:16AM PDT

The local news reports said that they were taking steps to divorce, but reconciled. Something seems to have been wrong with the marriage.

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I used to weatch some of his matches...
Jun 27, 2007 6:45AM PDT

... when I worked with MR/DD outreach programs, I would do a lot of in home visits and WCW wrestling was a favorite of many of my clients. Hulk Hogan and all those fellows were still the good guys then.

Benoit was always the quiet, intense fellow who struck me as a bit more than a play actor like many wrestlers are. I never saw him use a gimmick persona and he always seemed to be in a dark mood. Still, I would never have expected him to take out his family.

I can understand a crime of passion and why a spouse may kill another spouse but I can never understand why there is the nut job who insists on killing his or her children.

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******** child
Jun 27, 2007 9:54AM PDT

Supposedly he and his wife had differences over the care of their child who suffered retardation due to Fragile X syndrome. He had two children by a former lover, so maybe they inherit now? So, he probably was paying child support too. Seems the 7 yr old had just exited kindergarten and they couldn't come to agreement on where he should be for his first grade year. Wife also wanted Chris home more to take care of child.

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Fragile X can present some physical and mental...
Jun 27, 2007 10:40AM PDT

... challenges.

Not as easy job raising a child, let alone adding in developmental disabilities to the mix but murder should not be a solution.

Good info. Thanks for sharing it.

Happy

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(NT) I very much agree. "Don't touch the kids!"
Jun 27, 2007 2:10PM PDT
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I always suspected steroids.....
Jun 27, 2007 7:52AM PDT

....as at least a partial explanation for John Rocker's bizarre outbursts and sudden downfall a number of years ago.

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Has Mark McGuire ever been accused of wife beating?
Jun 27, 2007 8:19AM PDT

Anecdotal slop

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Not to my knowledge
Jun 28, 2007 12:37AM PDT

Research has shown that steroids can lead to unstable tempers and violent outbursts. That doesn't mean they always do.

Not every single person who smokes gets lung cancer either but that's not going to get me to light up.

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Three steroid stories
Jun 27, 2007 8:02AM PDT

(I am in no way claiming that steroids were the cause in this case. )

Over the past 34 years I've had 2 neighbors on steroids to "bulk up". One went through 5 (at last count) failed marriages. In each one he beat his wife. He was often in fights with others.

The other one was also a wife beater (2 that I know of). He was often in fights, and was arrested multiple times. Once when the police went to his house to arrest him he pulled his gun on them.

Another started on steroids in high school. During college and after he also had several failed marriages for wife beating.

Not to say that all wife beaters use steroids. But women should be cautious before saying "I do" to those who do use the stuff.

Angeline
Speakeasy Moderator

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I am just going to guess,
Jun 27, 2007 10:53AM PDT

booze was involved to. And probably cocaine.

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I'm sure there were a variety of factors involved.
Jun 27, 2007 10:52PM PDT

But does the fact their were other possible contributing factors lesson the role steroids may play in these situations?

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variety of factors ?
Jun 27, 2007 11:17PM PDT

Of course there were. But it's sooooooooooooooooooooo easy ti say ROID RAGE. Kind of sexys up the news story.

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(NT) I'll take that as a yes, steroids effect mood.
Jun 27, 2007 11:29PM PDT
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(NT) I hope you feel validated
Jun 27, 2007 11:48PM PDT
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(sigh) Wasn't about validation DM
Jun 27, 2007 11:52PM PDT

It was about asking a simple question and never getting an answer.

Make of it what you will.

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Roids
Jun 28, 2007 5:17PM PDT

Don't you think perhaps steroid use affects people's temperment? Perhaps makes them take things too personal, or make them feel everything said that doesn't agree with them 100% is an attack directly on them?

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Can
Jun 28, 2007 8:59PM PDT

nicotine and caffine do the same?

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Coffe & Tobacco
Jun 29, 2007 7:07AM PDT

You mean each by itself or just when combined?