Pretty accurate description

She's 18 years old, just started college in September, and got caught up with garbage right off the bat. She isn't interested in reading anything supporting a different side of the same topics because she's 'passionate' about her 'activism'....it has nothing to do with being smart about it. As you said, it gets pretty boring when you're in a room full of people high fiving each other...and pretty depressing when you go down in flames so they all need puppies and play dough for therapy now. However distasteful I find it, I DO read and research both sides, much to your disbelief, I imagine. Nobody expects her to change her mind until she's much older and when living in the REAL world hits her in the face....right now, she is one of the 'entitled' and unfortunately, my daughter, her mother, supports her in that entitlement. I wouldn't.....I wouldn't pay for an education that she's not taking seriously, and I wouldn't give her a car and money to live on while being an activist instead of getting a real education that she can use later on. Get the education first....THEN become an activist if that's your choice. I don't have to agree with her choices, just like I don't have to agree with yours, but I don't have to enable and support that person with an education that is going to waste in the meantime. YOU cannot convince me to change my core beliefs, JP.....but I've raised four great kids to adulthood who are free thinkers and I made sure they had the abilities to survive without me. NONE of us ever turned our backs on each other because we didn't think the same ways or believe in the same things....the fact that 'passionate' leftists can do this without a backward glance is frightening. They ARE the Sanders and Warrens and the Castros et al of the future....you HAVE to all believe and behave the same way or you don't exist for them. Yes, I worry for my granddaughter......I worry as much for my daughter....but they have chosen for themselves and they have that right to do so (my son, my daughter's brother, and my granddaughter's uncle fights for that right for them). I can only hope that even if my daughter can't see the difference between BO and hilLIARy and the destructive agendas they have had for this country all to benefit themselves personally (with money or a legacy), that eventually my granddaughter will grow up and see the light. BUT, I would never cut any of them out of my life over this.....just don't let that granddaughter try to come to me for money to support her beliefs. It won't happen.

"suffer in silence OR suffer the consequences of expressing YOUR opinion." I DO suffer in silence to HER and MY DAUGHTER......because I will NOT turn my back on family over something I hope my granddaughter will grow up and out of. I personally would NOT pay for a wasted education....and I would NOT have taken on a loan for a liberal college. Those were not choices for me to make or even voice an opinion about other than to tell my daughter to research the professors of the classes her daughter would be taking and see if they are ones they could agree with. My daughter is an adult.....my granddaughter is not, even if she CAN vote, just barely.

"So the "mold" is broken?" What mold? If you are ASSuming again that I 'trained' my children to be conservative Republicans, you are wrong, as usual. I raised them all to be free thinkers, but to educate themselves to BOTH sides of a topic and not be blind sheep. Derek was a liberal Democrat who voted for BO, Derek's first election BTW, because he believed this country was ready for a black president. I explained to him that he couldn't vote for someone that important to our country and the rest of the world for that reason alone and to really listen to what his policies and agendas were about and how destructive they would be once implemented. He didn't listen, just as many didn't. BUT during those first four years, Derek DID start paying a lot of attention, and realized that 'his' Commander-in-Chief cared little about our military and cared more about illegal immigrants, dangerous refugees, and climate change than anything else, and became a conservative Republican pretty quickly. LIFE changes your point of view, JP....and when you have to live with the consequences of your vote, you learn to pay much more attention and stop thinking in 'short term' fixes and consider the long-term results, which liberals never do.

"NEVER"? Never WHAT? be specific, please.

"My wrath"? Are you kidding me? I have no wrath towards my granddaughter. I think she's a pretty stupid child right now, being influenced by people who are very good at getting her to join their 'cult' crap. For her to be seriously considering leaving school after two months is ridiculous and possibly dangerous if she thinks she can travel to European countries and be an activist there with no possible real consequences scares the hell out of me. I'm hoping my daughter will be smart enough to stop her.

Do YOU really suffer from my wrath, JP? I hardly think so.....you have no clue what my wrath can actually look like.

do all they can to keep parents out of helping making decisions on courses, especially on those liberal propaganda choice of electives that are in some area that must be completed to get a degree. Our local CC had it that way but due to objections a general health course could be taken instead, which is what my two older daughters did.

When we were there getting signed up for CC, the counselor got a bit huffy, stating it was "her" decision on what to take. A small speech ensued about how 'she" was an adult now and should be making decisions alone for her future. I pointed out she was a "counselor" and I was a step above that as "her father". I quickly reminded her that we were paying tuition and so that made it "our" decision, and my daughter chimed in and told her she appreciated her father's help in it. I could see the counselor fuming then over it, but she kept her temper in check.

Even the CC's are becoming corrupted by the liberal propaganda from these strange people.

And I NEVER will.

Just as your son saw your light...so will your grand daughter....Give your advice, stand by and hope for the best...OR Contact Dr. Phil.

You survived 8 years of Obama...never give up hope...

I'm interested in knowing how your quality of life has been affected by the reign of Obama.

What can't you do now that you could do before Obama? WHY?

I'm better off now than I was 8 years ago....Liberals just got in power last year after 10 years of Conservative Gov. I don't expect any major changes in my lifestyle because of a change in government.

What were 3 of the things that caused you to support Trump?

His promise to open coal mines in Virginia?

Repeal Obamacare?

Put Hillary in jail?

What "bought your vote"?

You mentioned climate change and Obama and Derek...here's TheRUMPs position on climate change NOW, after he got elected.

Donald Trump’s senior administration team have had their work cut out this week explaining the President-elect’s “dramatic flips” on policy, as Fox news pundit Chris Wallace put it.

Since being named White House chief of staff, Reince Priebus has already had to explain several of the President-elect’s about turns – the latest being Mr Trump’s vacillating stance on climate change.

During his presidential campaign, Donald Trump famously described climate change as a “total hoax” invented by the Chinese to undermine US manufacturing.

knowing how my life changed/was affected by BO's terms.......here goes a few instances.

1. He's gutted the military so severely that thousands are forced into doing longer and more deployments than ever before and thousands more are forced into combining two/three jobs into one, resulting in mistakes and fatigue, both mental and physical, trying to keep it going. Equipment is old, shabby, and held together with duct tape. He's lost lives needlessly by firing top military leaders who didn't agree with his policies and he only listened to his closest civilian advisors, like Valerie Jarrett, rather than seasoned, trained Generals.

2. I've been forced to change doctors four times because they wouldn't take my insurance company, Humana, and even Medicare. Some are refusing to take Medicaid patients. In a small town, there are only three doctors to choose from, so now I am traveling farther to get to the one I have now. And even then, there is NO 'real' General Practitioner on staff....it's all run by Nurse Practitioners or Physician's Assistants. For that reason alone, I was extremely ill, to the point of losing the function of my legs for three months, because none of those NP's or PA's were capable of diagnosing correctly, had me on twelve different medications instead (which made things worse), and refused to refer me to specialists while they experimented and kept those office visit paychecks coming in week after week. I went to a number of specialists on my own (since I'm on Medicare I don't need referrals but didn't know that back then)....neurologist (one EMT thought I might have MS....wrong), ear specialist (dizzy all the time....wrong), eye specialist (possible stroke....wrong), neurosurgeon (deformity in my lower back that I thought might be acting back up....wrong after MRI's), gastro doctor (diarrhea got bad....was being treated for Crone's Disease that added another ten meds to the list....wrong). Finally insisted on giving a stool sample....got the results online six days before I was scheduled for a scope down my throat. While I was leaving the hospital, gastro doc comes in and says everything looked good and to keep taking the Crone's Disease meds. I asked him about the Giardia that the stool sample found I had (a parasite) and he didn't know what I was talking about. I had to tell HIM what I actually had because he hadn't bothered to read the results when they were faxed to him by the hospital. He immediately wrote me a prescription for that (ten day permanent cure) and told me to stop taking the three meds that he gave me specifically for Crone's. When I got home, I immediately stopped taking every pill on the counter except the cure for Giardia on my own.....and within four days, I had my legs back, the dizzy crap left, and the diarrhea was gone. I had lost thirty pounds in a three month period of time, my liver was severely compromised (legs were swelling up), I couldn't walk at all so had neighbors driving me to 'doctor' appointments, I couldn't get out of a sitting position without extreme pain in my legs, I couldn't bend to feed my dogs (I had to put their feed bowls on top of a box that I could barely bend over to fill but that was low enough for them to eat out of ...thank God for tall big dogs) without falling over, I was calling 911 on a regular basis to get me to emergency rooms where I would be released within two hours with no help there either. Obamacare did all that.......the patient care is the lousiest I have ever had in my life.

3. Social Security recipients have had three years (the first two of BO's terms and again last year) of no COLA.....no other president in history has refused that increase, but instead use billions for solar failures, et al because of a personal agenda. I could afford to not get that, but there are millions out there who can't afford to lose it while at the same time face an increase in their Medicare premiums, again forcing them to make choices about what to cut out of their daily lives to compensate for the loss.

4. The illegal immigration has become a crisis because of his agenda and directives to ICE and border agents to 'catch and release'......and at least one border agent died because of this along with Fast and Furious. His refusal to hold his own administration accountable is sickening considering how many agencies are corrupt, but following his direction. He has more than lived up to his statement of 'reward your friends and punish your enemies'. There is no justice in this country with him as a leader.

5. The entire world is blowing up all at once with his agenda.....and he seems oblivious to it all and instead pats himself on the back for making the world 'safer than it's ever been', including the USA, while terrorist attacks here are becoming the 'new normal'.

That's just a small list......I have so much more. And if you think that some of those I listed doesn't affect me personally, you are wrong. For the first time in my life, I have a gun locked and loaded nearby and I haven't slept here with my doors and windows open for the cool night air to penetrate in at least four of the past five years, and I've been here for 28 years.

That indexing is done based on economic inflation......and because of HIS policies, inflation was horrendously high but employment was so low that it erased the index completely.....that was in 2010-2011.....and the debt (both deficit and national) was so sky high because of HIS spending sprees that those who were losing their 99 weeks (extended by HIM) transferred to Social Security Disability benefits immediately based on 'mental stress' and have never returned to the work force, causing the employment numbers to be even worse (based on HIS policies, if you were called by census takers and were asked if you even worked for one HOUR, you were counted as being 'employed'). 2016, again, because of the election, all of a sudden AGAIN, the numbers were fudged just as they were for HIS reelection in 2012, to make it appear as if the employment rates were up when they are in fact still just as bad as they were in 2009. Your 'story' is just that.....a STORY coming from a corrupt administration. And the ONLY ones hurt by it all are the senior citizens, who have been a target by this administration since Obamacare went into place and funding for Medicare was transferred out in order to pay for that piece of crap, causing even more hardship on those people, because even though they didn't get the COLA, they DID get hit with the Medicare INCREASE in premiums......by an administration that didn't give a damn because it meant more money going to Obamacare that they could continue to tap. IF you're going to spin it, JP, at least make it credible.

could be anything, JP.....if you admitted that your neighbor paid you to drive him somewhere by reimbursing your gas, that was considered to be 'work'. Obamacare is the plan that stated that 35 hours was FULL TIME in order to force companies to pay the medical benefit if that company had more than 49 employees. So in order to pay that blood money, they cut 40-hour work week employees down to 35 which cut the employee paychecks to get the same hospitalization they were already getting from their employer. If the employer had 49 employees or less, they didn't have to pay for hospitalization coverage, but the EMPLOYEES were then forced by Obamacare to get it on their own, but they still could only work 35 hours a week or less, which also cut into their paychecks. There was NO way to win for the employer OR the employee, but the loser was ALWAYS going to be the employEE.

Today's job report states that 216,000 were added to the work force, bragging about that, BUT they were ALL in the 'service' industry....retail or restaurants, et al. Which means they are more than likely ALL TEMPORARY hired help for the holidays and will disappear again right after Christmas. Also in that report.....MANUFACTURING LOST 110,000 jobs. How can you brag about 216,000 temporary low paying service jobs and pretty much wipe out 110,000 in the same breath?

After all they voted for BO twice.......

But they are also basically honest when answering poll calls from the Federal Government.

The rest of your post is babble.

Some isn't considered "babble"? So you think I'm making progress?

Do you plan on finishing with the short list I gave you?

and uses a natural underground stream. Giardia is usually from surface water (rain or a hose that has animal (dog/cat etc) feces that can wash down into a well.....mine has a concrete cap and casing all the way down so it is pretty protected) and shallow creeks. They believe that because it can come from other sources (although it all water born only), it could have come from unclean icemakers and is in the ice itself from restaurants that may have it in THEIR water source and not know it (local small places where wells are still used here). I actually did another test of my own....since I now have a known cure for it. I got rid of the Giardia completely, then went back to drinking my water from the tap (I had been using bottled water for a while once I knew what I had), and got another stool sample done weeks later at the hospital to recheck for it even though I was symptom free, figuring if it came back positive again, I would get a water system installed that uses delivered bottled water (I could have gotten an expensive system with filters but cost was the determining factor), retreat the Giardia and kiss the well goodbye except for bathing and laundry and heavy boiling for cooking that would have killed it off. I would only have to make sure the gkids didn't get water splashed into their mouths while bathing or showering here.

Since you say I've been forced to change doctors four times because they wouldn't take my insurance company, Humana, and even Medicare.

You just can't find any that will accept YOUR insurance company OR Medicare, OR know what they are doing, OR a combination of the 3.


HOW is it Obamas fault if a doctor won't take YOUR insurance company?

did away with the Humana Advantage plan in this area....only Florida at the time was allowed to keep theirs (one of his side deals to get that Dem vote because of all the senior citizens in that State who had it), so I had to go back to just Medicare coverage. And because of HIS plan, the amounts that Medicare and Medicaid were ALLOWED to cover meant lower payments to the doctors here so they pretty much stopped taking patients on those plans as well. They were losing money rapidly and people's out of pocket deductibles went up so in addition to increased premiums, they were now forced to spend even more for a doctor's office visit.

This was ALL the result of Obamacare, JP.....People were having to LEAVE this county to FIND a doctor, when they were all promised they could KEEP what they had, and it was ALL A LIE that would hurt the most vulnerable the most.....and it DID.

How is that NOT his fault?

Because Humana and other insurance providers put money before the welfare of the population.

What do YOU want, Socialized Medicine?

only Florida at the time was allowed to keep theirs (one of his side deals to get that Dem vote because of all the senior citizens in that State who had it)

BECAUSE

only operating in Florida because of all the senior citizens in that State who had it.

Was Allowed?

Don't you mean Humana decided to ONLY operate in Florida?


It's all about the money.

You want the government to tell private businesses what to charge and where to do business?

What do YOU want Socialized Medicine?

Humana didn't decide to ONLY operate in Florida....Humana Medicare Advantage plans were totally wiped out throughout the entire USA, including here in VA which I had, because of Obamacare....BUT because he cut a deal with the Dem Senator from Florida just before the VOTE for Obamacare, Florida was given a waiver and allowed to keep it in place in order for that Senator to NOT lose his seat since he was up for re-election and the senior citizens there covered by that plan would have voted him out. Look it up, JP....do your research that you claim to do to prove me wrong.

Humana had to scramble to ONLY offer the exact same policies that every other insurance company could offer under Obamacare (there are only four plans to pick from and they are all identical to each other). ALL are losing money under Obamacare which is why so many have left the plan completely and only sell private coverage now instead of from any of the exchanges that were set up, but they are STILL only allowed to offer those four plans.

Obamacare was NEVER about money, JP.....it was deliberately built to fail in order to do exactly what you ask about.....establish a one-payer system (socialized medicine) completely controlled by the government, just like the corrupt VA that will finally be fixed under Trump.

You know so little because you really DON'T want to know....

So that's another reason you voted for TheRUMP?

...because the alternate choice was totally unacceptable, especially considering her promises to continue Obamacare and his Legacy. He doubled our debt, I don't need her to double that to 40 trillion. She's all special interest. She's a criminal. Tired of the Clintons period. If I didn't support Trump, she'd have been enough to make me vote for him anyway.

Well since YOU CLAIM they didn't "decide" to ONLY operate in Florida....

Are you saying Obama ordered them to carry out business in Florida?

They were ordered/forced?

HOW were they "forced/ordered"?

They did "decide" that's what I claimed....THEY decided...they weren't FORCED.....YOU focus on ONLY...I focused on DECIDED.

THEY decided...They weren't forced or ordered.

They decided they could abide by the rules and figured they could make a couple bucks...all those old farts down there laying in the sun, playing tennis or golf...needing lots of medical attention.

They stopped selling in the rest of the country because not enough clients would buy the plans they offered.

Humana Medicare Advantage plans were totally wiped out throughout the entire USA,

Humana is still listed as doing business in Virginia just not the plan you want?

Get some seniors to move to Virginia.....then you'll have more customers for Humana Medicare Advantage.

that is based on CAPITALISM......and making money, JP. Of course, they went into the Obamacare pool of insurers along with many others at that time because they were GUARANTEED money for a certain number of years from the Federal Government if they lost money, which they ALL did. BUT nearly ALL of those companies that went into the exchanges have LEFT Obamacare. BUT they are STILL forced into privately selling ONLY the four plans that Obamacare has in place...only now they are selling them for much larger premiums in order to make up for the money reimbursements that they are no longer getting from the Federal Government.

Are YOU really that stupid, JP? Over 70% of the people who signed up for Obamacare (many didn't because the FINE for not signing up was waaaaay cheaper than the policies themselves so they went that route instead, which was why Obamacare was doomed to fail from the start), didn't even have to get into Obamacare....instead they qualified (because the standards were deliberately lowered by the Feds) to get into the STATE coverage called MEDICAID, which expanded the STATE obligation to cover their care. The Federal Government again guaranteed reimbursement to the States but only for a certain number of years before the STATES would be TOTALLY responsible for their expanded coverage.

The ENTIRE plan was deliberately set up to fail, but because NOBODY could know what was in it until it was voted in, the Dem Senators had to be lied to, blackmailed, arm twisted, and bribed to get the votes.....and even THEN it couldn't pass so Reid used his nuclear option of 'reconciliation' to pass it without the 60 vote requirement. And this was done because Scott Brown won the Rep Senate seat from Mass. just before the vote was to take place and Harry Reid knew they would lose if he could vote, so he had the Senate vote before Scott could be sworn in.

http://dailysignal.com/2010/01/29/congress%e2%80%99-new-secret-plan-to-pass-obamacare-%e2%80%93-the-nuclear-option/

You just described this little girl's life from day one. I've seen and heard two of her children talk to my daughter like she's dirt under their feet and I'll never understand why nobody ever smacked the crap out of them. I got an update from Derek a few minutes ago about their holiday together.....as they were leaving, this granddaughter never said goodbye, gave a hug to anybody...not even the little kids....and just got in the car and waited like royalty for the rest of her family to haul her butt home. She informed Derek that she's 'thinking' about leaving college (she's been there three whole months) and going to Europe so she can be an activist over 'there'.....God only knows where 'there' will end up being if she goes. One can only hope that she doesn't end up in some jail somewhere because most countries don't allow activism and/or protests against their country's government.

that someone who burns a flag should be jailed (even Scalia personally believed it), but that doesn't mean it will ever happen. Trump's tweet was an OPINION.....NOT LAW....and he's entitled to have one. Or don't you believe that even HE can have free speech allowed to him?

America allows activism, JP. What are you drinking tonite? I specifically said "European" countries.....and since many other countries are part of the EU, people travel across borders easily. I'm hoping she doesn't cross into one that doesn't allow activism and ends up jailed over it. THAT'S what I said, and you know it. Stop with your being a jerk already.