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Preferred Java & Alt Browser 4 Vista HB...

by tobeach / January 23, 2008 3:05 PM PST

Brand new to Vista (< 1 week) setting up my Landlady's Brand New Notebook. Specs:
Manufacturer : Acer, inc.
Product Name : Aspire 4320
Operating System: Vista? Home Basic
Processor: Intel Celeron CPU
530 @ 1.73GHz
System Memory: 1 GB
Hard Drive 1 :
Hitachi HTS541612J9SA00, 111.79 GB ATA
DVD Drive 1: Optiarc DVD RW AD-7560A
Video Mobile Intel(R) 965 Express Chipset Family
Total Available Graphics Memory: 251 MB
Audio: Realtek High Definition Audio
Wireless LAN Card 1:Atheros AR5007EG
Wireless Network Adapter.

LOADED With AVG 7.5 Free AV (dumped trial Norton), Spybot S&D 1.4 &Immunize (no TT),C(rap)Cleaner SLIM, HJT V.2,Dumped MS Defender & will need other to replace it. Dumped Yahoo toolbar. Home Page:Blank & Search:Google.
Now running 50% faster to boot up than stock.

I want to get her either SeaMonkey or Firefox & best Sun Java for each or either. She is used to SM with Java 1.4.2_xx (sys specs limit)on desktop. Considering (smaller) FF as notebook is soo much slower. Plus
Spybot recognizes & protects FF but is lax on Sea Monkey browser.
You can see I'm not big on Betas & for new Vista definitely don't want to chase problems & hangs thru an unknown OS.

She won't have on net much, mostly updating protectors & Java,maybe visiting Hotmail. Intended mostly for managing her home photos (J pegs).

Please give me your best suggestions on this & possibly least troublesome real time (?) AS. Free versions preferred where possible.

Thanks for patience with (overly long) description & reply efforts!
Sandy ConfusedGrin

PS: Had to eliminate ALL forward slashes to prevent pre-mature ending of post. Example: w/

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Those Should Work..
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / January 24, 2008 3:25 AM PST

Firefox and the newest Java 6 Update 4 from the link below should provide what she needs. Both are supported on Vista.

Sun Java
Click on the link to Sun's Java below, then click on the ''Java Runtime Environment (JRE) 6 Update 4'' download button. Follow the prompts, accept the license agreement, then download the full ''Windows Offline Installation'' file to your desktop,(about 15 MB), scan it with your antivirus (just to be sure it's clean). Once that's done, if you've already got a Sun Java version on the computer, open the Control Panel, double click on the ''Add/Remove Programs'' section, then uninstall all previous versions of the J2SE Java listed there. Once that's done, then install Java JRE 6u4 from the downloaded installer.

I don't think SeaMonkey is Vista compatible yet.. at least their system requirements don't have Vista included.

Hope this helps.


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Thanks for Your Replies, Grif!! I Happened to See...
by tobeach / January 24, 2008 2:12 PM PST
In reply to: Those Should Work..

in one of Bob's posts that he was running Sea Monkey on a Vista machine
which got me thinking that way due to her familiarity with it.

I was toying with the idea of BoClean 4.25 for real time protection on the Vista unit. I have it on desktop unit and works at stopping & notifying of intrusion attempt (Trojan Simulator) but won't give written report so I can follow up! Apparently I'm not the only one, but I'm hoping it will do notebook report on Vista (some optimist, eh??).
Plus if I go BOC then I can't use Tea Timer(well known conflict).
I expect to get AVG AS 7.5 anyway & will pay license if she agrees, or keep as on demand scanner.
Thanks again for your suggestions !! Sandy Grin

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As To Antispyware...
by Grif Thomas Forum moderator / January 24, 2008 3:32 AM PST

Other than Windows Defender, which you uninstalled, Spybot is the only free antispyware program (that I'm aware of) which provides "realtime" protection.. (Personally, I'm leaving Windows Defender running on the Vista machines because "somethings better than nothing" and it does have realtime prevention status.)

In addition, the two free programs below are working well on Vista as standalone AS scanners.. If you want to pay for them, then will work great as realtime.

Ewido/AVG Antispyware 7.5 Tool

SUPERAntispyware Removal Tool

Hope this helps.


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