Pray for El Faro crew to be found

by James Denison Oct 5, 2015 9:26PM PDT

Meet the crew.

Theres a debris field, but much can be washoff from Crooked Island and maybe other Hurricane related events at the Bahamas. Before the ship when silent it had lost propulsion, but seemingly had electric power and pumps were working to correct a 15 degree list to one side. It had a few hundred cars in the hold and a few hundred above deck containers. I would guess some of those containers held people's household goods too.

So far the crew has not been found, only empty life vests and float rings.

Of note is a recent freak wave that hit a cruise ship, so something similar may have happened at the El Faro too.

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Here's a clue

by James Denison Oct 7, 2015 10:47AM PDT

Communism has a bad reputation, so much it's avoided even in name bo Communist, so now they call themselves "Progressives" but it's the same old crap they always push.

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Re:so now they call themselves "Progressives" but it's the s

by JP Bill Oct 9, 2015 7:59AM PDT

so now they call themselves "Progressives" but it's the same old crap they always push.

Said the man that gave the changes to the Russian economy an atta' boy.

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RE: Why don't you move to some communist country

by JP Bill Oct 9, 2015 7:57AM PDT

Why don't you move to some communist country if you like their viewpoints so much?

Said the man that gave the change in Russian economy an atta' boy.

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Comical

by James Denison Oct 9, 2015 12:45PM PDT

A Brit, a Nederlander, a Canadian, spending so much time on American issues. Things must really be boring back home for you guys. I guess it's sort of gratifying to know we Americans command so much attention from you.

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RE: I guess it's sort of gratifying

by JP Bill Oct 9, 2015 1:26PM PDT

Go ahead...gratify yourself.

Things must really be boring back home for you guys.

They are

That's why I post about traffic jams in China AND America.

Why are you here? Also bored?

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by MarkFlax Forum moderator Oct 9, 2015 2:14AM PDT

You said, "did I ever say "follow me"?"

Well you are the ones asking the contradictory questions.

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there's a difference

by James Denison Oct 9, 2015 7:16AM PDT

between contradictory and confused, and you are suffering confusion, therefore see it as contradictory.

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RE: there's a difference

by JP Bill Oct 9, 2015 1:46PM PDT

there's a difference between contradictory and confused, and you are suffering confusion, therefore see it as contradictory.

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Yes, I am very confused

by MarkFlax Forum moderator Oct 10, 2015 12:38AM PDT

why God would punish the crew of a ship for what you call crimes against Him hundreds, if not thousands, of miles away.

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Re: shipwreck

by Kees_B Forum moderator Oct 7, 2015 11:30AM PDT

Strange to see this thread going from a shipwreck to commies. Let me go back to the original subject: "Pray for the crew to be found".

Did you prayers help? Or didn't God listen to you?

Kees

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Why not start with...

by James Denison Oct 7, 2015 11:36AM PDT

...if you said a prayer for them or not. Only THEN can we discuss the efficacy of prayer. Oh, one body has already been recovered.

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Re: efficacy of prayer

by Kees_B Forum moderator Oct 7, 2015 11:59AM PDT

Let me first study all references in https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer.
I expect to learn more that way than by listening to you.

Kees

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Really?

by James Denison Oct 7, 2015 12:23PM PDT

"Wikipedia does not have an article with this exact name. Please search for Efficacy of prayer. in Wikipedia to check for alternative titles or spellings. "

I can see that's one of their overlooked subjects. Have at it though.

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Really.

by Kees_B Forum moderator Oct 7, 2015 12:39PM PDT

The forum software spoiled the link by including the full stop that was meant as the end of the sentence. Without that it's https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efficacy_of_prayer and that's clickable (I checked).

Thanks for pointing it out. Sorry for the confusion.

Kees

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Prayer...FWIW

by Steven Haninger Oct 7, 2015 11:42AM PDT

and something recently discussed during a family gathering...maybe a little bit sappy but worth chewing on.

And God Said, “No”

Claudia Minden Weisz

I asked God to take away my pride,
And God said, “No.”
He said it is not for Him to take away,
but for me to give up.

I asked God to make my handicapped child whole,
And God said, “No.”
He said her spirit is whole,
Her body is only temporary.

I asked God to grant me patience,
And God said, “No.”
He said that patience is a by-product of tribulation,
it isn’t granted, it’s earned.

I asked God to give me happiness,
And God said, “No.”
He said He gives blessings,
Happiness is up to me.

I asked God to spare me pain,
And God said, “No.”
He said, “Suffering draws you apart from worldly
cares and brings you closer to Me.”

I asked God to make my spirit grow,
And God said, “No.”
He said I must grow on my own,
but He will prune me to make me fruitful.

I asked God if He loved me,
And God said, “Yes.”
He gave me His only Son who died for me,
and I will be in Heaven someday because I believe.

I asked God to help me love others,
as much as He loves me.
And God said,
“Ah, finally you have the idea.”

© 1980, Claudia Minden Weisz. Used by permission of the author.
All other rights reserved by Claudia Minden Weisz.

From here.

http://www.ephrataministries.org/remnant-2011-07-God-said-no.a5w

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