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Not much to work with.
Did you try installing from a newer external firewire DVD drive?
I'm wondering why you would install,
such an old OS, 10.1, and then move up to 10.4.
Far better to use the 10.4 DVD to boot the machine, format the drive and then install 10.4
Was there a particular reason for starting at 10.1 and working your way up?
Try this. Remove the drive and try to boot the G4 from the 10.4 DVD. No Boot? Remove one stick of RAM. No Boot? Replace the first stick and remove the other.
Still no Boot.
Leave the DVD in the drive.
Shut down, remove the power cord, remove the battery, press the "ON" button at the front of the G4. Replace Drive and RAM. Leave the whole thing for 30 minutes.
Replace the battery, power cord and press the CUDA button. Small rubber thing near the battery. ONCE.
Cross everything that can be and press the "ON" button and hold down the "C" key.
re: I'm wondering why you would install,
Hi, thanks for getting back...
the first thing I tried after installing the new hd was to install 10.4 from the dvd, but that resulted in the grayish multilingual screen with "you must restart your computer" message, so I went back to the system restore cds which installed 10.1, then did software updates online til there were no more for that OS version, then installed the next version & so on, unless I couldn't get past restarting in 10.1 and the kernel panic screen...got some advice from apple discussions and did what they suggested - PRAM, NVRAM resets; hardware test, etc., even tried reinstalling the old hd but that resulted in the multilingual grayish message screen...
anyway, I'll copy all that stuff down & give it a try...might take awhile...not a top priority, just a fixation now
thanks again for all the ideas...I'll let you know if any work
question about RAM
was wondering if the hardware test wouldn"t find if there was a problem with RAM? that's one of the things that's tested, and it passed, along with everything else that was tested...just trying to maybe save a step...
right now I'm about half way thru the 30 minute wait time after everything you suggested I do before didn't work: disconnected HD - wouldn't boot and only HALF the monitor screen worked! other half was black; removed 1 stick of RAM - wouldn't boot, monitor same (only half working); replaced first RAM, removed second-wouldn't boot & same monitor problem...so I reconnected HD, replaced both RAM, removed battery, pressed "on" button, and now I'm waiting the 30 minutes...
if it still won't boot, what's next? besides a trip to the "genius bar" at the apple store (even if I could get in with all the iPhone buyers clogging the aisles lol)
thanks for the help so far...I'll be back in 15 min and let you know if there is any change...
okay...waited 30 minutes, reconnected everything, pressed cuda button, replaced battery & power cable, tried starting from DVD drive...same thing...1/2 the monitor is black and there's half a black box in the middle of the screen after the apple logo comes & goes....
tried restarting from HD...monitor same (1/2 black)...and kernel panic screen comes on...
replaced OSX install DVD with hardware test dvd...starts, but monitor the same (1/2 black)...and can't tell if hardware test is running because can't see top of box on screen to click to run it...
Not much you can do with only half a picture
Either the monitor is starting to shuffle off this mortal coil or the Graphics card already has.
Try reseating it, don't hold your hopes too high though, and reboot. Ooops, shut it down first!
I wonder if the card could be dragging the rest of the system down and causing a panic.
Note that you get a panic even when starting from a DVD which has an OS on it that should never get corrupted.
Try it and get back with us
thats what I was afraid of :(
thanks for getting back...was afraid it might be the graphics card...I'll try what you suggested and get back with results...as soon as I figure out which is the graphics card
thanks again for the help!
re: not much to work with
thanks for getting back...
to answer your question, I don't have a firewire dvd drive, only the one thats in the G4.
I'd borrow or buy one.
It's something I found I needed to play with Apple gear.
I'm the only person I know who uses Macs
thanks for the suggestion...unfortunately I'm the only one I know who uses Macs
thinking of seeing whats on ebay...
Let's ask MrFixit if some USB DVDRW drive works?
They certainly do, although not as well as the Firewire version does.
Unless this G4 has had a USB 2.0 card added, the native USB speed is that of USB 1.0 which as very
S L O W !
That said, OWC have Firewire and USB SuperDrives available, around $80, but I guess the purpose of the question was to see if it would be possible to use a USB optical drive that is currently being used on a PC.
As long as the system supports it, OS X definitely supports Panasonic devices, and with a little help from a utility call Patch-Burn, most other devices can be supported too.
Hope this helps
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