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Rant

POTUS Donald J Trump

Oct 16, 2018 11:26AM PDT

What a character.

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Yes, he is POTUS....
Oct 16, 2018 12:10PM PDT

and he isn't the only 'character' to have held that position, so what's your point?

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RE:my point?
Oct 16, 2018 1:50PM PDT

My post was a RANT...the use of the word "character" was a polite/Canadian way of calling him an ***hole.

I have yet to see any Trump supporters (you know who they are) defend what HE says...they just say he isn't the only 'character' to have held that position

Do YOU think Stormy has a "horseface"?

Do YOU think it was her face was caught his eye?

IF it wasn't her face that caught his eye, would you refer to him as a "pig"?

Women are vindictive, and ALL men are pigs?

Can a person be a Trump "supporter" and not a Trump "defender"?

He's no worse than what he replaced?

Live with it?

Some simply make a post and get referred to as a pig by others, never mind being POTUS and on the world stage.

Donald J Trump is NOT a pig?

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Trump rant.
Oct 16, 2018 2:06PM PDT

Thanks for giving us some variety on SE, Bill.

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(NT) You're welcome.
Oct 16, 2018 2:36PM PDT
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Did you happen to see Bill
Oct 17, 2018 3:01AM PDT

eyeballing Ivanka DURING Trump's inauguration? Is BC a pig in your opinion? How about JFK, Ted Kennedy (women DIED under both of them), Cory Booker, Keith Ellis, et al when they're Dems and politicians?

As for Stormy's case being thrown out and having to pay Trump's attorney fees....did it EVER occur to you that he wasn't lying when he said he never had that one night stand/affair with her? Of course not. Because he was always in the public eye prior to being POTUS, he MUST be guilty of everything he gets accused of?

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RE:did it EVER occur to you that he wasn't lying
Oct 17, 2018 3:51AM PDT

NO!....

HE makes it very difficult for me to believe anything he says.

So I take everything with a grain of salt, sometimes a pound of salt.

How bout YOU, do YOU believe EVERYTHING HE says?

Even when YOU saw and heard him say something that is entirely different?

HE is a liar, and not even a good liar.

RE:Because he was always in the public eye prior to being POTUS, he MUST be guilty of everything he gets accused of?

Accused of AND admits to?

Trump, Billy Bush on the bus?

TheRUMP doesn't need anyone to talk trash ABOUT him...He's done a pretty good job all on his own.

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You brought up the Billy Bush conversation
Oct 17, 2018 5:19AM PDT

BUT neglected to show that he ADMITTED to doing anything....what he SAID was "as a public figure he COULD do anything".....that doesn't MEAN HE DID.

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AND you think
Oct 17, 2018 8:21AM PDT

TheRUMP doesn't do EVERYTHING he claims HE CAN do?

Right now he's doing things he shouldn't be doing,

IF he didn't claim to be able to do things, then he would save a lot of money/bad publicity, by paying off people that say he did what he claims to be able to.

A fool and his money are easily parted.

Stormy Daniels? Never heard of her?

HE is so full of it, it's a wonder he doesn't have brown eyes.

If ANY public figure did what HE claims they can do, to you, would they get YOUR vote?

Isn't just claiming they could grab ANY female in that way enough to lose your vote?

You hate BC because he looked...

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I never hated BC
Oct 17, 2018 9:30AM PDT

I hate the fact that he denied, even with actual proof, doing what he did to those women who came out during his campaign and his WIFE publicly trashed them....the SAME wife who ran for President twice and claimed to totally support women who file sexual assault charges but cozied up to most of the ones accused for years and for money.

Hey, I THINK I COULD rob a bank and get away with it, but that doesn't prove I've DONE it.

No, just CLAIMING something COULD HAPPEN doesn't make it true....just like SOME women who CLAIM they've been sexually assaulted doesn't make that claim true either. Just like Dems who claim K COULD overturn Roe v Wade or gay marriage doesn't mean it's GOING TO HAPPEN. Dems think they can predict not only the future, but predict how people SHOULD vote based on the FEAR that THEY say COULD happen.

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RE:claimed to totally support women who file sexual assault
Oct 17, 2018 10:09AM PDT

so now you think that Ford was telling the truth about K?

You do support women that make claims of sexual assault, don't you?

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No,I don't think she was telling
Oct 17, 2018 1:59PM PDT

the truth about K, just based on her own conflicting statements. IF something happened to her, it wasn't K, of that I'm sure. I've had experience with more than a handful of women who had been sexually assaulted years ago and didn't tell anybody about it, and NONE of them lost complete memory of how they got to the location, remembered ENTIRELY everything about the assault, and then again lost their complete memory as soon as it was over, like Ford claims. Not all of the details remembered are exact or distinct, but there ARE memories of most of it. In Ford's case, she conveniently forgot location, date, how she arrived (she didn't drive herself so WHO drove her there?), whose house it was at (was the actual son or daughter who LIVED there at the house?) and then immediately after hitting the front door as she left, her brain ceased to function again including how she got home (she walked six miles? or did she call someone via LANDLINE to come and get her? and IF driven home, by WHOM, since NOBODY came forward to say "I drove her there and/or drove her home"?.....WHEN she get her brains back? It obviously came back at SOME point because she went back to her normal routine....was she a walking zombie for a certain amount of time and NOBODY noticed?

This is just a small number of reasons, I don't believe her...…..

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And you sidestepped Ted's
Oct 17, 2018 5:32AM PDT

murdering a woman....did you accept HIS lame-assed excuse for WHY she died in five feet of water when the autopsy showed/proved she was still alive when he LEFT her there and went to bed without getting help for her? Unfortunately millions of people DID.....would Trump be 'forgiven' for it? Has he KILLED anyone? Has HE been accused of rape or physical assault like BC or Ellis or a number of other Dem leaders? No....he's been accused of AFFAIRS between CONSENTING adults, whether he was still married at the time or not, and AFFAIRS are not illegal in this country.

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RE:Has he KILLED anyone?
Oct 17, 2018 8:24AM PDT

HE?.....The guy that claims HE could shoot someone and get away with it?

As HE is known to say, "We'll see what happens"

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RE:when the autopsy showed/proved she was still alive when
Oct 17, 2018 8:46AM PDT
when the autopsy showed/proved she was still alive when he LEFT her there and went to bed without getting help for her?

Did the "autopsy" show that he knew she was passed out in the back seat?

Would that fact be included in a regular "autopsy"?

PS.An autopsy (post-mortem examination, obduction, necropsy, or autopsia cadaverum) is a surgical procedure that consists of a thorough examination of a corpse by dissection to determine the cause and manner of death or to evaluate any disease or injury that may be present for research or educational purposes.

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He never went for help to find out, did he?
Oct 17, 2018 9:35AM PDT

He left her to die while he sobered up and conjured up a fabricated bunch of crap to excuse his killing her. Even if she was dead when HE got out of that car, he STILL killed her because HE was driving drunk as hell......and NEVER paid for it. In fact, he was an HONORED member of the Senate....a HERO.....and the single member who 'Borked' the SCOTUS nominee saying Bork was too irresponsible to hold the seat and smeared him unmercifully. These are the kinds of people YOU look up to and you say Trump supporters aren't worthy of making good decisions on who should lead us????

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RE:He never went for help to find out, did he?
Oct 17, 2018 10:15AM PDT

NO>>>>To get help for someone that he doesn't know/realize in the car?

Why would he?

How do you know she was still alive when he left the car?...Got a link that shows that?

I didn't think so.

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Doesn't know/realize she's in the car?
Oct 17, 2018 2:06PM PDT

By his own admission in that televised crap story, he 'dove down to the car a few times and couldn't get her out' before leaving......look it up, JP.

The autopsy stated she was trapped and breathing in the car when she drowned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

This first link is to her autopsy report listing the cause of death as "drowning".....you can't drown unless you are alive and inhale water, JP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chappaquiddick_incident

Got anything else you can use to defend that murderer? I didn't think so.

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RE:The autopsy stated she was trapped and breathing
Oct 17, 2018 7:35PM PDT
The autopsy stated she was trapped and breathing in the car when she drowned.


99% of the people that drown are breathing before they drown.

AND

you can't drown unless you are alive and inhale water, JP.

I knew we could agree on something.

In your posts you've been saying when he LEFT her there and went to bed without getting help for her...your link claims he told some friends and they went to the scene and tried to rescue her.
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He didn't tell anybody anything
Oct 18, 2018 12:58AM PDT

until the NEXT DAY....which is when the police were evidently notified because THEY found her just before Ted called them. He needed time to get his story straight because he obviously couldn't talk to the cops dead drunk and needed to sober up first when no blood test could be done on him. HE LEFT HER THERE TO DIE IN ORDER TO SAVE HIS OWN ****....and he was still hailed as a hero when he died years later.

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RE:He didn't tell anybody anything
Oct 18, 2018 3:49AM PDT

He didn't tell anybody anything until the NEXT DAY

YOU provided a link to prove YOUR point, I read the link, and the link said he DID notify others....

Instead he collapsed in the back seat of a rented car parked in the driveway and quietly summoned Joe Gargan and Paul Markham. After a brief hushed conversation with Gargan and Markham outside the cottage, the three men rushed to the waterway and Kennedy's overturned car to try to rescue Kopechne.

When you say the "NEXT DAY" do you mean the accident happened at 11:59 PM and he didn't notify anyone until 12:01AM, 2 minutes later, the "NEXT DAY"?

Are you done yet, or do you want to flog this dog a bit more? I've got some more power points to rebut your arguments.

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IF that's what happened then his friends
Oct 18, 2018 6:13AM PDT

were also in on that coverup and didn't notify authorities until the next day...allowing Ted to get back to his motel room, sober up, and concoct a crap story to tell because her body wasn't recovered by POLICE the NEXT MORNING a half hour before Ted called them. Since the car was in only 5 feet of water, her body could have been pulled out pretty easily and quickly by Ted or his friends (using YOUR two minute time line) and she probably would have been alive.

Bring on your power points to defend her murderer......he KILLED her and got away with it because of money, power, and influence.

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RE:IF that's what happened
Oct 18, 2018 7:24AM PDT

I used YOUR source that YOU claimed proved YOUR argument.

NOW you are suggesting what YOU claimed didn't happen the way YOU claimed.

Go figure.

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He walked away and let her drown
Oct 18, 2018 11:46AM PDT

THAT'S what happened. Do you agree? Or is he still one of your heroes like he was to all the liberal Dems out there?

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RE: to all the liberal Dems out there?
Oct 18, 2018 12:06PM PDT

Most of the liberal Dems alive today don't even know the guy, and never heard of him.

It's only the old farts that remember the name.

You go TONI H ...fill your boot....

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People still remember
Oct 18, 2018 5:16PM PDT

Amelia Earhart. Why would you think nobody other than older people would know about it?

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RE:People still remember
Oct 18, 2018 7:23PM PDT

People still remember Amelia Earhart.

Are you comparing being the first female to fly across the Atlantic Ocean to driving a car into a pond?

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No
Oct 19, 2018 11:33AM PDT

I'm comparing it to a Senator driving his car into a pond with a woman from a party that was not his wife, and then leaving her there to drown. Now just change that name from Kennedy to Kavanaugh and how do you think it would have gone in the hearings for him if he'd done such a thing? Not well I'd assume, considering all the false allegations that were entertained against him, something that actually happened would certainly have derailed the nomination.

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dont forget the silly neck brace
Oct 18, 2018 5:14PM PDT

From no higher than many would dive off the bridge into the water and not be hurt, but he did it in a car, so not even that much an impact, but Oh, must solicit sympathy for HIS plight, so on goes the neck brade to help that. I guess if he fell into anything harder than a feather bed and pillow, he'd be in traction too.

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RE:so not even that much an impact,
Oct 18, 2018 7:58PM PDT

It's NOT the impact.....

it's the

Whiplash is a relatively common injury that occurs to a person's neck following a sudden acceleration-deceleration force that causes unrestrained, rapid forward AND backward movement of the head and neck, most commonly from motor vehicle accidents.

What's the Treatment for Whiplash?

Use a neck brace or collar to add support, if your doctor recommends it. However, they are not recommended for long-term use, because they can actually weaken the muscles in your neck.

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no rapid deceleration
Oct 19, 2018 11:34AM PDT

No more than going off the road into a muddy ditch, and probably less.