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Ports 68 and 80 are opened.. don't know why or how to close

Oct 24, 2005 7:58PM PDT

Just ran a Shields Up at Gibson research-- showed the above 2 ports open.

I uninstalled Zone Alarm and tried installing McAfee Firewall and the 2 ports still show up as open and test failing (and shows I am pinging as well).

I've always passed the Shields Up test before this-- run it maybe every month. Have no idea what these ports are or why they are opened or, more importantly, how to close them.

Any help would be appreciated.

Craig

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Could some of your programs is set to act as server?
Oct 25, 2005 2:00AM PDT
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I've been Running Yahoo Messenger for years
Oct 25, 2005 2:12AM PDT

and it acts as a server... but that port has never shown up as open before.

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Try to determine which process is listening
Oct 25, 2005 3:52AM PDT

to Port 80 and 68

Open Command Prompt and type:

netstat -no

you'll see the PID (process ID)
Take note of the PID then pulist it to find out which of your application/processes/service is using Port 80 and Port 68 that causes it as "open"

Example:
pulist \find /i "1234"

Not: 1234 is the PID

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I need more instructions
Oct 25, 2005 4:01AM PDT

I dont know how to decipher what I am looking at.

I do get a list but I can't tell which is what-- can't tell what is even port 80-related here.

A little more detail is needed. I'm not that technically savvy.

Thanx

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Sorry. Don't try pulist. Try this one.
Oct 25, 2005 4:26AM PDT

Open Command Prompt and type:

netstat -no
Hit Enter in your keyboard

or

netstat -ano
Hit Enter in your keyboard

you'll see the PID (process ID)
Take note of Process ID where you will see Port 68 or Port 80 is in used (listening) (make sure no browser or windows is open before you do the above)

Next, Open Task Manager (Press Ctrl+Alt+Del)
Click View>Select Columns
Check the box before PID (process identifier)

You can now check what processes or application is using Port 68 or 80 by looking up the PID against the Processes Tab of Task Manager.

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I guess I wasnt clear
Oct 25, 2005 5:07AM PDT

How can I tell what is being used on Port 80 after typing netstat -no? I see the list of things but nothing is identifying (to my eyes) which is being used on port 80 so I have no idea what to look for, period.

Sorry I am so thick here. Your patience appreciated.

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I guess I wasnt clear
Oct 25, 2005 5:36AM PDT

How can I tell what is being used on Port 80 after typing netstat -no? I see the list of things but nothing is identifying (to my eyes) which is being used on port 80 so I have no idea what to look for, period.

Sorry I am so thick here. Your patience appreciated.

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Here's an example:
Oct 25, 2005 12:28PM PDT

After entering netstat -ano or netstat -no, you will see something like this:

Active Connections

Proto Local Address Foreign Address State PID
TCP 0.0.0.0:135 0.0.0.0Shocked LISTENING
TCP 0.0.0.0:445 0.0.0.0Shocked LISTENING
TCP 127.0.0.1:1025 0.0.0.0Shocked LISTENING 1616
TCP 127.0.0.1:80 0.0.0.0Shocked LISTENING 1234

In the above example, 1025 and 80 are the port numbers that is listening. The Process ID in used by 1025 is 1616 while Port 80 is in used by Process ID 1234.

Now, look in your Process Tab (after you checked the box before PID in the Column), lookup for PID 1234 to find out the image name (processes name) that is using PID 1234. That allows you to determine which application or services is using your Port 68 and Port 80.

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OK found the Process== It's Firefox
Oct 25, 2005 5:41PM PDT

It did ask to act as a server a few days ago...
Is this a problem?

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Which port did Firefox used? Port 68 or 80?
Oct 25, 2005 5:56PM PDT

While Firefox is closed those ports or any of those ports are in used by it?

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Port 80
Oct 25, 2005 9:08PM PDT

Actually port 68 just shows as "closed" and not "stealth" on GRC.

Also, I've run 2 other port scans besides GRC. Port 80 doesn't show at all on one and shows as open but not probable at another. FWIW.

Also, I did 5 different trojan scans (since port 80 is the favorite port for trojans to open) and all five came up clear. In anticipation of what is coming next:))

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Bglover, No Need To Allow Firefox as Server...
Oct 26, 2005 2:06AM PDT

Open ZA, then open the "Program Control" tab on the left, then the "Programs" tab at the top. ONce there, find the Firefox listing, left click on the "Server" options that have been allow, choose "Block" which will put a red X in the box..Both the "Access" options for "Trusted" and "Internet" should be "Allowed" with a green check mark but the Server options are not needed for browsers.

The port 80 issue could very well be caused by the "Server" setting you've enabled. Hopefully, blocking that will fix the issue.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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Changed the settings on Firefox
Oct 28, 2005 7:35AM PDT

And port 80 was still open.

Checked the PID again and it showed ypager (yahoo messenger) using port 80. So, I erased Yahoo Messenger thinking that would close it.

But GRC still shows port 80 open. When I run netstat it shows no programs associated with the port being open. As I understand it, a port only opens to allow a program(s) access to the net. If there is no program using that port then it isn't "open".

I understand that port 80 is "the" port for http etc. But it always showed stealth before this (I repeat I ran 2 test besides GRC and one showed nothing and one showed "low risk" so I'm not sure how "open" it is).

Ideas please,

Craig