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Pork without the Oink?

Jun 1, 2007 1:36PM PDT
Growing pork without the pig

UTRECHT, The Netherlands ? Dutch researchers are trying to grow pork in a laboratory with the goal of feeding millions without the need to raise and slaughter animals.

"We're trying to make meat without having to kill animals," Bernard Roelen, a veterinary science professor at Utrecht University, said in an interview.

Although it is in its early stages, the idea is to replace harvesting meat from livestock with a process that eliminates the need for animal feed, transport, land use and the methane expelled by animals, which all hurt the environment, he said.


They'll be able to use the food that would have been used to feed animals for ethanol.

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Can't wait to see the reaction of the
Jun 1, 2007 11:48PM PDT

Organic food nazis... which are usually environmentalists, so they'll have to do some soul searching.
You know the ones, they complain about pesticides and other "unnatural" techniques (such as irradiation) to make the food safe. They also are scared silly of genetically-modified foods, for fear that eating them will turn them into mutant freaks.

I really do hope they find a way to generate meat without a live animal, and can't wait to see the debate over it.

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This is actually quite an old idea...
Jun 2, 2007 12:26AM PDT

been around in Science Fiction for decades. I'm all for it.

But nutrients would have to be put into the system and they would have to come from somewhere. Most likely place I'm guessing, would be from crops, so don't believe all the rosy predictions.

I hope when the day comes that they can grow meat, the ethanol hoax will be but a dim memory.

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Wait no more! :-)
Jun 2, 2007 1:14AM PDT

I consider myself an "environmental nazi" Happy in that I think there has been an overuse of chemical pesticides. (Granted, it took a while to realize the effects on ground water, streams and rivers. We just didn't know.)

I am in favor of this research. Also of irradiation and genetic modification. (The latter has been in practice for years. Luther Burbank comes to mind who did it with pollens.)

I don't know about where you live, but around here the family farm is dwindling as heirs, who don't wish to continue farming, sell off the land to developers. Thus I think that more research into growing foodstuffs in smaller spaces might merit consideration. Hydroponics produces a great tasting tomato. Seems I've read that hydroponics might be the mode used to grow fresh veggies if a permanent colony lived, say, on the moon.

IMO, the status quo could very well have limitations. Good to see that some people are looking ahead.

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Just curious,
Jun 2, 2007 1:30AM PDT

when you talk about the effect on ground water, streams, and rivers... are you talking about pesticides or fertilizers (which have a more profound effect on those areas)?

I worked in a grocery store while I was in college, and I remember them introducing irradiated meat (had a good number of samples myself). Within a day or two of the chain introducing the meat, there were protests outside a few of the larger stores.
Within two months the meat was no longer sold at our stores.
Those protesters are the individuals that I mock as environmental nazis, so I hope I did not offend you.

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Off hand, I'd say both.
Jun 2, 2007 4:50AM PDT

The operative word being "chemical".

I don't recall any irradiated meat being sold where I've lived. I have been waiting for some irradiated vegetables , but none yet. For gosh sakes, we expose them to freezing cold, then heat, even microwaves.

There was a grocery here several years ago that did something to make their past-date-of-sale beef look fresh after it turned brown. That is an entirely different ball game.

Sorta off topic, but I read that frozen veggies retain more of their nutrients than the "fresh" ones that are shipped cross country.

No offense taken.

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