Poll: Most Americans Support NSA's Efforts

I would have been shocked if you were on the other side. But no matter what a poll says, there is this thing called reality... I couldn't care less if I am in the minority when I know I am right.

As usual the press is carrying the Democrats' water and helping them demogogue this "issue".

overwhelming approval of this activity. The ones that don't allow games to be played with the results are showing that people favor this activity.

... deals with call records (no name, address attached) and patterns. Nothing more.

Call records and patterns only......

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Evie. As it is, it's still an invasion of privacy -- and the government has used information gathered in the name of fighting terorism for ordinary criminal cases.

NSA lawyers resisted push by Cheney for spying in U.S.;
Hayden balanced aggressive tactics with legal limits

>> In the weeks after the Sept. 11 attacks, Vice President **** Cheney and his top legal adviser argued that the National Security Agency should intercept purely domestic telephone calls and e-mail messages without warrants in the hunt for terrorists, according to two senior intelligence officials.

But NSA lawyers, trained in the agency's strict rules against domestic spying and reluctant to approve any warrantless eavesdropping, insisted that domestic spying should be limited to communications into and out of the country, said the officials, who were granted anonymity to discuss the debate inside the Bush administration late in 2001. <<

So at least it seems as if CIA nominee Hayden was more or less one of the good huys, even if the final compromise still goes too far. What supposedly differentiates "us" from "them," Evie, is our freedom, democracy, and civil liberties. If we destroy those in an effort to "save America," as Bush/Cheney and their cronies are hell-bent on doing, exactly what have we saved? Not the America I was taught about in my social studies class -- the one that was pround of having the longest undefended borders in the world, for instance! In the name of "security," many of the things we used to object to about the former Soviet Union (including the ability of police to demand "papers, please!" for no legitimate reason) have become part of normal American life. Even to punishment for criticizing the President. remember Dan Rather's interview with Saddam, where Saddam was disbelieving that there was no punishment for criticizing the President in this country? Well ask the Dixie Chicks, Linda Ronstadt, or that would be contractor who lost a HUD advertising contract whether that's still true today! We're busy destroying the nation in order to save it -- doing our enemies' jobs for them! It all reminds me of that American colonel (?) in South VietNam, who told a news team (on camera) "we had to burn the village in order to save it!"

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about a character apparently modeled after Jack Abramoff, who was playing both sides (Indians wanting a casino vs an organization that was opposed) against the other and supposedly taking money from both.