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Poll: If you had one choice, which format would you pick?

Aug 22, 2007 8:09AM PDT

If you had one choice now, which format would you pick?

Blu-ray (What are your reasons?)
HD DVD (What are your reasons?)

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HD DVD
Aug 22, 2007 6:40PM PDT

blu ray is just way way waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too early...maybe one or two years later then i will reconsider my decision, but for the time being, blu ray is OUT of the question.

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HD DVD is a better choice...
Aug 22, 2007 7:16PM PDT

First, HD DVD player is cheaper than Bluray. Second, HD DVD player is still a DVD player that will be in use for a long time in future.

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HD-DVD
Aug 22, 2007 7:37PM PDT

Because it is not Sony! I'll never forgive them for dumping Beta.......

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SONY POWAAAA BLU-RAY
Aug 22, 2007 8:00PM PDT

FOR MY PS3 !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! for the first reason !!!!!
but there are soooo many reason too (capacity, technologie, inovation (bleue), entertainment with ps3, ....)
PLEAASEE kick out the HD-DVD !!!!!!!!!!! I don't want to resell my PS3 Sad Sad Sad

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Blu-Ray versus HD-DVD.
Aug 22, 2007 8:19PM PDT

Hey, its the same "VHS versus BETA" all over again. Just Sony wanting always to be different. Again they will be defeated....Mike

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No Need to Decide
Aug 22, 2007 8:19PM PDT

Asking me if I prefer Blu-Ray over HD DVD is like asking if I prefer to carry a cell phone or a camera.

Everyone is stuck in an old paradigm, brought about by the VHS/BETAMAX video tape format wars.

In that case, a choice had to be made, because the players were limited to one format.

But I now have a DVD player which also plays music CD's and MP3 files...is anyone getting my point?

Just how hard will it be for DVD players to play multiple formats?

Get with it!

Forget this stupid argument.

Instead, look for the company who is ahead of the others in development of hardware, and buy stock in the one you think will first be able to play both formats.

That's called putting your money where your mouth is.

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Already out there...
Aug 22, 2007 10:54PM PDT

I agree with you completely on the format war being stupid. LG already has a "universal DH/BRD" player (been out for a while now). Samsung has announced that it will release a BRD/HDDVD player late this year, or early 08. I'll just wait for them to get better at it, and then pull the trigger. Till then, I'm all set with this "format war". And if you polled the people posting here, I'm curious to know how many already own the type of player their voting for. Hmmmm

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LG HD DVD/BluRay
Aug 22, 2007 11:37PM PDT
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They can be...
Aug 23, 2007 2:08AM PDT

found for MUCH less. I've seen them as low as 600 NIB on fleaBay. But that's not the point I was trying to make. I was just saying that there are players out there now which play both formats. And with time, the quality will get better and the price will go down (as with every other technology that's ever been introduced). I'd bet in a year, you'll see multi-format players at a competitive price. Or by Xmas 08.

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yah
Oct 24, 2007 1:28PM PDT

that player, if it doesn't cost bill gate's fortune, will end this freaking war.

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from price perspective only...
Aug 22, 2007 8:38PM PDT
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misleading
Aug 22, 2007 8:57PM PDT

Shellyle,
That chart is misleading.
The Pioneer BDC-2202B Blu-Ray Sata Combo DVD RW+ Blu-Ray Player for $279.90 is for the pc, not a settop box for your tv. And even that price is suspect.
All of the hd dvd players on that list are for the tv, not pc.
It still looks as if a hddvd player is 1/2 the price of blu-ray.

I can't justify paying for either of these while an upconverting dvd player with hdmi connection can be had for under $70.
Add to that the $20 - $40 cost of a regular movie on hd or bluray and you've lost me.

If and when the industry switch is made, and I can no longer get regular dvd's, I'll make the switch to downloading my movies from Amazon or whoever is cheapest.

The only reason I own dvd's is when they cost as much to buy as rent.

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The winner is clear though
Aug 22, 2007 9:07PM PDT

I will start with this:

HD-DVD have Porn companies on there side, which give HD-DVD a huge boost. Although this is a great advantage it wont be like it was when VHS was around. Back then we didn't have the net. Be honest, how many people own a Porno DVD? Not many coz you can get it from the net, and sometimes free. And net porn is always updated.

HD-DVD now have two more studios on there side and there big ones. This will help for sales too.

HD-DVD's and players are cheaper, and most people want well priced products.

HD-DVD have the same quality as Blu-Ray too so why go to blu-ray?

This is why:

Blu-Ray is selling almost double the amount of HD-DVD's, mainly because of the PS3.
More Studios are exclusive to Blu-Ray then HD-DVD.
Porn is also licenced for blu-ray now.

Everyone wonders why more space is better when you already have the same film on each disc. Well the storage isn't really to do with movies. This goes to the Computer side. People that are big with computer will use blu-ray to store files on because of the fact that you can store (Alot) more on a blu-ray then a HD-DVD.

Think about it. Blu-ray will win mainly because of the PS3.
People who don't play games, buy a PS3 as it is a cheap (and very good) blu-ray player. More people will be getting a PS3 and more people will be buying blu-ray movies for it.
Maybe HD-DVD is better, but it doesn't stop Blu-Ray from winning.
I don't know why people still sit on the fence as the winner is quite obvious.
It will all come down to the PS3. Blu-Ray will win solely because of the PS3. If there was no PS3 then maybe HD-DVD would be in the lead, but just remember, the PS3 only came out last year and it has a very long life. Thats it, its down to the PS3.

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At this point the only choice would be what comes bundled
Aug 22, 2007 9:29PM PDT

Whatever came bundled with some device or service. Sony bundles it's drive with the PS3 so buyers get a Blu-Ray. I don't own anything with either player. Like most consumer I choose neither, because they are too expensive and may not be the standard in a few years. Who wants to own the next Betamax?

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Blu-ray has superior capacity, more room for growth
Aug 22, 2007 9:44PM PDT

Blu-ray wins the storage capacity race hands down. That would allow Blu-ray to support even higher resolution and color depth video and lossless audio. And it's the best choice for general data storage and data hungry games. Blu-ray has ample room for growth, HD DVD does not.

Unfortunately, past history shows that in this type of competition, the cheaper, lower cost, technology will probably win the market penetration race - the VHS vs BETA effect is an example. Most manufacturers and consumers will select the cheapest, quickly available, product. For Blu-ray to win, it's manufactures must be willing to take an up-front hit to their bottom line, and flood the market with lower cost players, recorders, and media.

The multimedia giants are aware of the number of Blu-ray vs HD DVD players being distributed as stand-alone players and in consumer desktops and laptops. Eventually they will decide who wins based on sales forecasts and profit margins rather than who really has the superior technology.

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jfreuler -
Jan 7, 2008 10:36PM PST

Hey, jfreuler - any response from Westinghouse yet?

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Record wars
Aug 22, 2007 11:30PM PDT

The last timr i remember a war such as this was during the quadraphonic record labels.Columbia on one side and i thinkRca on the other. I had my quadrophonic sound system and loving the sound of Janis, Santana TYA and others.So they both folded camps and it was over.I enjoy the 1080p of blu-ray,but i am also aware that it is not 1080i. please let it end on a positive note for the consumer or we'll be right back in the 70's
Armypappy

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Why I would pick Blu-ray even though I want HD-DVD to win
Aug 22, 2007 11:46PM PDT

SIZE matters people! There is just no getting around it. I want to be able to store alot on my disks! I am talking about these fromats from the storage perspective. I want to back up my .jpg,.wmv,etc... and I don't want to have to buy a 100 dvds to do it. Blu-ray 50GB, HD-DVD 30GB big difference. Now reson I want HD-DVD to win? Price; again something else the matters! Come on, blu-ray is a total new technology/disk so it is going to cost more for quite a while. HD-DVD uses the same technology to coat its disks that DVDs do. I love the HD-DVD price. Especially if they get the XBOX 360 HD-DVD working well on VISTA. I will be sold then.

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HD-DVD All the way here
Aug 23, 2007 12:07AM PDT

Im moreorless supporting HD-DVD for HD Movies. It is easy to incorporate along with standard DVD's which really gives me the thumbs up here.

BluRay is a good format, but I believe that it is more suitable for gaming and high amounts of storage, where it can make use of its huge capacity

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HD
Aug 23, 2007 12:30AM PDT

Frankly tired of having to upgrade equipment just because someone creates a new product that is minimally better than existing ones. Have a garage full of old technology that noone wants now. Major investment gone to waste along with filling up landfills with something that will never deteriorate.

JerryW

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BluRay vs HD DVD
Aug 23, 2007 12:30AM PDT

Time and money. BluRay is too slow, and too costly. If it speeds up, and the machines you must buy to play them come down in cost, it will eventually take over HD DVD...if it lasts that long. Personally, I believe that SMD's (solid memory devices, like USB flash drives, compact flash, Secure digital, etc. eventually will kill both of them).

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Issues for BR
Aug 23, 2007 12:39AM PDT

Blu-ray may have the technical advantage BUT BR lacks competitively priced players to beat HD-DVD. The cheapest standalone HD-DVD player is $200 and the cheapest standalone BR player is $500. Your average consumer could care less about which one has better Java interactive menus if one player costs more than twice of the other.

Also, your average consumer sees the name HD-DVD and can associate it with DVDs. There is a comfort level with HD-DVD since the DVD forum supports it.

Sony and their camp will only succeed if they can bring down the price of their standalone players to be around the same price of the HD-DVD players. Of course, if they can lower their price to $200-$300 for a BR player...Toshiba will by then have one for $100.

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If I had to pick one or the other
Aug 23, 2007 12:39AM PDT

I'd go HD DVD and start buying all my movies in that format now, so that I can play them all on my regular DVD player now, and in the future when it's time to retire my trusty "Low-def" DVD player, I can watch them in all their hi def splendor. Blu Ray just doesn't offer that flexibility. But honestly, please, let's just get real for a second and get hip to the Total HD format that will work in any player, and get players that will work with either format. This whole thing is just plain stupid.

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Blue Ray if Only One Choice... I don't believe in one choice
Aug 23, 2007 12:59AM PDT

I would go with Blue Ray if for the capacity if there is only one choice; however I don't believe that there should be one choice. A bit of competition will keep things nice for the consumer. It will force the developers to continue pushing the envelope. This is precisely why the two camps are not allowing cross licensing deals for makers to produce a dual player. Both camps want to be done with their development and rake in the money with no further effort on their part. Not good for the consumer.

Thanks,

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Both: Blu-Ray for capacity, HD 'cause it's been cracked!
Aug 23, 2007 1:17AM PDT

While I understand the COST associated with producing BOTH formats of High-Def. DVDs, I can't imagine that it is anything significant (compared to the overall production costs of making the movies in the first place). For that reason, I don't understand why the "AUTHORS" of these film products are deliberately turning their backs on a segment of the market.

It seems to me that WE, THE CONSUMERS should be the one who ultimately make the decision (based on TECHNICAL FACTORS), not just on who makes the CEAPEST player (though on that point, HD has it: price is lower AND Audio Codecs are REQUIRED; Blu-Ray is more expensive, and latest Codecs are OPTIONAL [most do NOT support the latest codecs]).

Blockbuster, for example, has decided to stock ONLY Blu-Ray, because 70% of ALL of their High-Def. DVD rentals were Blu-Ray; so for them, it is a matter of shelf space versus customer demand. For THEM, their customers voted for Blu-Ray.

Bottom line (for me): I don't intend to BUY every movie title I ever want to watch, so Blockbuster is a definate player in my decision process.

So, if I had to choose NOW, it would be Blu-Ray.

Side note: I never bought a VCR until the Beta/VHS "debate" was settled, and I probably won't buy a High-Def. DVD player soon either.

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Blu-Ray
Aug 23, 2007 1:17AM PDT

I am forturnate enough to have both players the blu ray with my ps3 and my hd dvd player with my xbox 360. Since I have to choose one I will side with blu ray; media files are just going to get larger and larger and blue ray seems it will be the only one capable of managing these impending media files.

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Sony is the Evil Empire
Aug 23, 2007 2:06AM PDT

I'd choose anybody's format but Sony's. Those were the friendly folks who introduced root kits on CD's. Remember? The world should boycott any Sony product, from digital cameras to music to their video format.
I do.

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Did you get paid off by Microsoft to write that? (ADMIN)
Aug 23, 2007 4:29AM PDT

A little stipend in the mail? Yeah, Sony doesn't need protective case to protect YOUR media anymore, they came up with a NEW solution to the age old dilemma (having you stuff scratched) and it is called the BLU-RAY DISC. You should really look into it pal.

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HD-DVD is cheaper, and has better interactive features
Aug 23, 2007 3:12AM PDT

HD-DVD is cheaper, and has better interactive features. This is why I believe it will and should win.

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When you break it down HD DVD isn't really cheaper...
Aug 23, 2007 4:12AM PDT

I don't think you know what you are talking about. Have you actually used Blu Ray's interactive features because they are just about the same. Look up the production cost per gigabyte of memory per disc: Blu Ray vs. HD-DVD. With some simple math you will find prices of $0.077 per GB on HD DVD SL media and $0.052 per GB on Blu-ray SL media.
HD-DVD is based on the same old technology as DVD... ask yourself this: Why did we do away with VHS?
Blu Ray is a NEW & IMPROVED version of the the standard format. Why would anyone settle for less?