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Poll: How often do you defrag your hard drive?

May 20, 2011 9:33AM PDT

Windows users, how often do you defrag your hard drive?

-- Once a week (Why so often?)
-- Once a month
-- A few times a month.
-- Once a year.
-- When I feel like it needs it. (How do you determine that?)
-- Never. (Why not?)
-- What's defragging, is that even a word?

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Hard Drive Defrag
May 21, 2011 12:35AM PDT

I use a third party app to determine percent fragmentation. I have it set to 15%. At that point it goes into an auto defrag.

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When I feel it's needed

It used to be that if you didn't defrag your hard drive AT LEAST once a month, it was doing the same thing as cooking your hard drive in a frying pan full of bacon grease-it won't survive. But, that was the past. This is today. Most computers defrag in the background, and you'd only need to defrag it about once a year at the max if it doesn't defrag in the background, usually less than that.
The only time I defrag is when doing something simple (like playing an online game) makes the computer whine (I have an HP w/1TB drive, 8GB RAM, Windows 7 Home Premium). That is a signal that the computer is struggling to keep up, and the hard drive is in SERIOUSLY bad condition (I could go about a month before I give in due to the whine practically driving me insane).
Today's computers are WAY better than the past. You shouldn't have to defrag more than once a year at the max (unless you bought the worst hard drive on the planet). I've only defraged my hard drive once, because playing a simple game made the computer whine, but that was because I got a virus that almost completely wrecked my computer (there were very few files intact apart from the system files, which AVG and MalwareBytes just BARELY manages to protect, along with some other files I encrypted).

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Once a month actually every 2 wks which was not an option
May 21, 2011 1:43AM PDT

It depends on what you do! If you download and try out different utility programs alot, which I do often, because I'm not always happy with the first utility function I come across. Doing this leaves a lot of garbage on your system hard drive because not all program modules delete completely and the bits and pieces let behind take up space. I run my cleanup utility then run a module called smart-defrag. About every 2 weeks works for me and I'm not stuck to my computer screen for Loooong periods of time watching the defrag process. I don't like automatic processes either. In fact I don't like Windows 7 automatic update feature at all, but that's another story!

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Make it auto
May 21, 2011 3:35AM PDT

Windows 7 makes it easy to schedule automatic defragmentation using the disk defragmenter that comes with it. I recommend once a week, unless you're someone who does very little with their PC. Over time, fragmented files will slow Windows down. Also, running defrag usually doesn't take long - maybe 5 minutes or less, depending on how many files have changed/added/removed. Happy

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how often do you defrag
May 21, 2011 4:48AM PDT

Pretty much every day.
But I'm constantly dealing with large video files and photo scans, so it's necessary.
I use IOBit Smart Defrag. Works great.

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Wow! Lots of ideas and very controversial
May 21, 2011 11:11AM PDT

I bought Diskkeeper for my XP desktop but I just use the Windows Defrag on this Win 7 laptop. I run it maybe once a month or so, maybe once every other month. But it rarely reports over 2% of fragmentation. I decided to leave well enough alone as HP partitioned this 500GB drive into 3 drives, but two of them are very small and for restore and utility functions. That left me with about a 450GB C-drive. I just let Windows and HP do it's thing and it seems to work pretty good. Files open about as fast as you can click on them so what's the point of changing that.

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using Smart Defrag 2...
May 21, 2011 7:59PM PDT

it does the job as needed in the background - means for my 3 HDDs it's a few minutes defragmenting every day.

I don't like *scheduled* defrags coz it usually takes too long to finish.

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Other OS Defragmenting
May 22, 2011 4:10AM PDT

Why is it that we do not need to defragment in other OSes, such as Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch, Puppy, Debian, openSUSE, OS X, OS 9, etc?

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Other OSs
May 22, 2011 8:53AM PDT

I will give a partial answer but I defer to someone else who is much more knowledgeable than I about operating systems.
Fragmentation occurs on all disks all the time regardless of OS. The OS, whatever it may be, says to some DRIVER 'I want to write something to the HD you control'.

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Other OSs
May 22, 2011 1:21PM PDT
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automatic
May 22, 2011 11:34PM PDT

I just use a paid automatic defragger that runs in the background and prevents fragmentation (most of it anyway) on all 4 drives, and silently defrags whenever the need arises. Works brilliantly and I've never have had to bother with defragmentation.

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Defraging
May 24, 2011 4:58PM PDT

I defrag a few times a month to keep it manageable within a reasonable time frame.

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Weekly
May 24, 2011 11:14PM PDT

I found that weekly defragging has really improved the performance of my laptop greatly.I use PerfectDisk as my defragger, and it has worked extremely well for me. Personally I love the features, it's ease of use and just overall quality. When the new version comes out, you can count me in, it's a fantastic product.

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Mr. Koo How often
May 26, 2011 8:37AM PDT

do you defragment, if at all? Since the question was put by an Admin. person what is the "official" opinion?

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it was biggest pain in * when I was win user
May 27, 2011 12:10AM PDT

it was biggest pain in * when I was win user.
Now modern fs and no defrag hurah Grin

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What really you need for your PC
Jul 1, 2011 1:18PM PDT

In fact you do not need to defrag your HDD if you do not use
the system even once in a week. Defragmentation is basically required entirely
on your usage. In case you use your

System everyday at least 7 to 8 hours mainly for surfing and
a little bit for you other usages then you need to defrag your HDD at least
once in a month. But if you work with various applications and files for the
same period then I suggest you defrag the system at least once a week. The best
way to maintain the PC in all respects is installation of Advance System Care
from IObit. The basic features of the programs are free but are sufficient
enough to maintain the PC in top order. Just use this program whenever you have
time- any time- even while you are working on your PC? It silently works behind
the screen without disturbing you?Just get the program even through CNET?Mohan
S Negi

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No specification as to the type or degree of defragmentation
Jul 19, 2011 12:14PM PDT

I ignore Windows Defrag, and use two freeware products for this; Auslogic and Ultimate Defrag. Windows Defrag doesn't allow me to control or know what it does, it just does something that consumes a lot of time and resources.

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On an Acer Aspire, Windows 7
Sep 1, 2011 10:44AM PDT

According to my Defragmenter...

Never.

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Clarification
Sep 1, 2011 10:45AM PDT

My drive went kaput and I reset it from scratch, so starting 6 weeks ago it was as good as new, that's what I meant.

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Auto Defrag
Sep 1, 2011 12:18PM PDT

Philippe - You must defrag partitions, not a whole disk. Only defrag partition C: the one with the operating system. Downloading has nothing to do with defragging (although it may cause fragmentation). Never download into the partition C:. Your drive going kaput has nothing to do with defragging. Also, never set defrag on automatic. Do this manually when you have time.

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I know that...
Sep 2, 2011 6:18AM PDT

That's why I posted the clarification. I only mentioned the kaput because that's when my drive (as it currently is) first "started".

Basically this is what I see happening, your average person who uses his computer during the day and sleeps at night (and who doesn't know anything about defragging) will never have his computer defrag. Even if he's on a nice shiny new Windows 7 system that's supposed to have everything automated. This is because they set it by default to defrag at 1 am. And even IF for some reason the guy happens to leave his computer on one night (like I did due to the download) it probably won't defrag because he has 1 in 7 chances of leaving it on on the night that Windows has scheduled it. Most likely, he'll leave it on when it's not scheduled.

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Also
Sep 2, 2011 6:32AM PDT

Why is it a bad idea to use the automated scheduled defrager? Why is it better to do it manually?

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How to start a forum battle?
Sep 1, 2011 12:55PM PDT

Ask this question. LOL
I am running Windows 7 Home Premium.
It is automatically scheduled to check the hard drives once a week and defrag as needed.
Sometimes I leave the computer on, sometimes it is turned off. Quite honestly, I check the fragmentation probably every couple of months and not really give it much thought.

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Auto Defrag
Sep 1, 2011 2:32PM PDT

David - Take your defrag OFF auto. Try to remember to defrag Partition C manually once a month. Partition C for Win7 should be about 60-80 gb, contain the OS and applications only. Data should be on another partition.

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Partition?
Sep 2, 2011 6:21AM PDT

I don't understand, isn't "C:" the default internal hard drive? When it asks me to defrag I select C, and I understand it to mean it's going to defrag all of C. My internal is about 500 GB. He also offers to defrag my other drives (externals connected via USBs). How might I defrag only certain "partitions" of my main drive?

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Partitioning
Sep 3, 2011 5:12AM PDT

I take it from your reply that your entire harddisk, with the exception, possibly, of a "D" partition for recovery, is also your C partition. You need to create partitions as virtual "sub-disks" using Windows itself or a program such as Partition Wizard.

Make your C partition (the one with Windows) about 80 gb for Win7. That's the one you want to defrag. Note that other partitions (E, F, G...) must be created for data and application defaults (Office) changed to one of those non-C partitions otherwise your C "disk" will fill up quickly. Your data partitions don't need to be defragged at all, or once every 3 months. Here's my Partitions on my WinVista (Control Panel>Administrative Tools>Create and format hard disk partitions)

HP C: (System, Boot) 41.35 gb
D: Recovery 6.27gb
E: MyDocs 50.78 gb
F: Multimedia 146.24 gb
G: Swap 9.76 gb
H: Audio 107.87 gb
I: Backup 19.53 gb

Note: These don't add up to 500 gb because I have some un-allocated space. The system partition (CHappy should be defragged once per week using a third party application (e.g. Auslogics). Never use Window's defrag because it doesn't work right. Disable it, take it off auto, and forget about it. Never defrag Recovery (DHappy. As for E:-I:, you can defrag them during lunch once in awhile.

If none of this makes sense, you should educate yourself on basic hard disk operations.

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Why?
Sep 3, 2011 5:18AM PDT

What is the difference between partitions for data and applications, and 'folders' for data and applications?

How does partitioning for those make it any easier for the OS?

If a 500 GB "C" partition is going to " fill up quickly", how will reducing it to 80GB prevent that?

Don't forget, the user still has 500GB in total, regardless of how many partitions there are on the drive.

Mark

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Basic understanding
Sep 3, 2011 7:44AM PDT

I never said anything about making it easier for the OS. I never said a 500 gb partition would fill up quickly, it won't.

I don't have the time or motivation to instruct you on computer basics such as the difference between partitions and folders. I suggest you take a basic computer class at your nearest library. Until then, take Windows defrag off automatic and forget about it.

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No.
Sep 3, 2011 9:32AM PDT

Actually, I would suggest that if you are unsure about defragmentation then leave on automatic and forget about it. There is no need to use any third party products, Microsoft's built-in one works fine. It does not cause errors as I have read somewhere. Partitioning you disk is up to you. There are pluses and minuses. I do not partition disks as I find it a royal pain. My desktop has one 600 gigabyte partition, my wife's notebook has one 500 gigabyte partition, and my server has two (?) disks. C drive is a 300 gigabyte partitioned drive, and D is a 2.9 terra byte RAID 5 array. P.S. The correct terms are extended drive, and logical disk, not virtual sub-disk. P.P.S. I have been running this way since the days of NT 4.0 with no problems.

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Partitioning
Sep 3, 2011 11:34AM PDT

Pray tell, what would be the minuses of partitioning? If you find partitioning a royal pain then you should also take a basic course in computing.