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Poll: Are you going to remain on XP even after support ends?

Sep 20, 2013 8:46AM PDT
Are you going to remain on XP even after Microsoft stops supporting it?

-- Yes, as long as I can.
-- Yes, but only until I upgrade.
-- No, I'm moving on to a different OS.
-- I'm already off of XP.

Place your poll votes here:
http://forums.cnet.com/2706-21566_102-2275.html

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When GM, Ford, or another car company
Sep 25, 2013 5:05AM PDT

quits making a particular car model, or changes it drastically, do you expect all the older model cars to suddenly disappear from the highway? LOL, just because that model isn't produced anymore by no means negates it's utility, nor end it's life, so anyone who claimed such would be looking pretty silly to most everyone else.

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When they pull the plug on XP, they are gonna pull the plug.
Sep 25, 2013 7:49AM PDT

There are no legal ramifications in this matter. Microsoft is done with WinXP come February 2014. Vendors already are not supprting & will not support designed XP programs with updates or upgrades, thus, the Operating System won't normally function, especially connecting to the Internet. WinVista is next!

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It's Dead
Sep 25, 2013 10:40AM PDT

But only when the consumer says it is dead.

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'Lovely plumeage, Norweigian blue'
Sep 25, 2013 12:24PM PDT

Starting to sound like a Monty Python sketch Laugh
True though, it ain't dead until people give up on it

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Older OS
Sep 24, 2013 3:08PM PDT

Personally I didn't like W2K and kept using Win 98 until switching to XP.
Any OS that requires 20gb free space has some issues, even the Win 8 fanboys can't argue with this
Minimum system requirements, Win 8 Pro

1Ghz processor
2GB RAM
20GB available hard disc space


There is no way I want to have an always on, always connected computer, pretty sure Microsoft have 'shot themselves in the foot' with this
I still think they would make more money by having a $15~20.00 annual subscription for XP

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XP subcription, great idea.
Sep 24, 2013 6:35PM PDT

Excellent idea, because I really like XP, been doing Window 7 Ultimate, not impress with it, for the past years.

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my main beef with windows 98 se
Sep 25, 2013 3:04AM PDT

was it never fixed the memory leak problem. I had the rsrcmtr program always set for startup so that cute little memory meter would be in my system tray, so I could see it go yellow and then when it hit the first red bar, I knew it was time to save anything open and reboot, open whatever back up again and have some more time before the memory leak would lead right up to a crash. Not needing to do that in W2K which still looked a lot like windows 98 is what had me finally move to it, and stay with it so long.

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You might be candidate for Linux Mint
Sep 25, 2013 4:02AM PDT
Here's where mine is at on usage today after having FF and Thunderbird open for a few hours and still a number of pages open in FF. Less than 430 MB of RAM used for that. After this screen capture I opened a youtube video in addition and RAM usage jumped to 470 MB, but still left me almost 1.5MB of RAM available. No memory leaks on this. This is Mint version 14 with all current updates. I've been weaning myself off XP into Linux distros this year, my favorites are Mint and Kubuntu. Ubuntu Unity looked a bit too much like it was going to windows 8 style, but many do like it and it doesn't lose the start menu and not a bad setup on a widescreen. I still use a standard ratio 4:3 so chose NOT to have tiles on the side taking up space.

My main complaints with the latest Linux distros is not everything is a GUI, at first the file system, especially regarding executable type files and package installations outside the GUI Synaptic Package Manager is a learning curve, but really no worse than DOS was and some of the common commands like "dir" and "cd" and "edit" found in DOS are used with similar results. Anything in Windows folders I can access (copy/paste/delete) with no problems while using it.

The thing I like about Mint is like Windows, it's simple to use. Kubuntu offers a deeper, broader experience and many former Windows users prefer it, but unless I need it I find myself using Mint more often. I'm using it right now to post this.
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correction
Sep 25, 2013 4:26AM PDT
The thing I like about Mint is like Windows,

should be;

The thing I like about Mint is like Windows 98,
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Oh no, not OS 101 again.
Sep 25, 2013 7:12PM PDT

I have stayed the course with Windows XP-Vista-7, since 2005 and its learning process, with much headache,. I am frightened to invest in another makers operating system. Hell, I am still learning (lol).

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We may dis-agree, however, Microsoft stipulates XP is dead .
Sep 24, 2013 7:03PM PDT

Microsoft fore-warned, "XP is Dead", so I must agree with the Operating System maker!

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Microsoft is commiting suicide - death by a thousand cuts?
Sep 24, 2013 11:17PM PDT

Discontinuing a product because something better came along may be sensible,
I really liked Win 98SE but it did give BSOD a bit too frequently (although rarely more than 2 times a year. Just before it was 'killed' it was very very stable
Win ME sucked, crashed really frequently, Win 2000 wasn't much better so I didn't use them beyond trail periods (pretty sure I still have both discs somewhere)
XP just worked out of the box and got better and better over time
Personally, I didn't use DOS 3.1 to it's full capabilities and don't need what they are selling
From everything I've read about Win 7 or Win 8, it doesn't do what a lot of people want without various add-on's or paying for various licenses, some third party to make OS work 'properly'
7 & 8 are newer, but, they are not better

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You keyed on spending money, they all colaborate!
Sep 25, 2013 8:06AM PDT

Everybody or Company is talking in the IT field, to keep making money, Products are combining, all Computers are similar, a tweak here, a tweak there, but generally they all have same components.

They could care less, about, our concerns about products made 5 years back. Catch my drift? Its about that almighty buck. Operating systems are included.

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Not a problem.
Sep 24, 2013 7:08PM PDT

I moved to XP in 2004 or 2005. Until that time I had been using 98SE happily and productively, and only made the move to be able to use some programs that 98 couldn't cope with. I was able to use 98 for so long due to the support online, and there was/is a lot. One user even went to the trouble of producing a service pack which included all the updates throughout 98's life, and others produced useful programs to keep 98 alive. Security program producers continued to produce virus lists to update their programs compatible with 98 - they didn't simply stop when Microsoft went away. XP is popular, and saw a lot of new users who migrated backwards from the awful Vista, and I've no doubt it will be as supported online as 98 is. I moved on to 7 simply to use the extra 64 bit capabilities - more RAM useable, but I dual boot with XP for compatibility with some programs I still use. Panic not. Support for XP will be available for a long time yet.

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"Support for XP will be available fo a long time."...Maybe!
Sep 25, 2013 10:33AM PDT

You have obvisously given true facts about Windows previous Operating Systems and your experience, however, it is a guess this time and not fact, that, "Support for XP will be available for a long time yet". No one knows Microsoft's real intention this time. Will they shut it down completely, not abling one to load new programs, what are vendors doing to upgrade WinXP programs, etc., have they quit, we can't rely on speculations. So I am listening the maker "no support", I render XP dead.

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I think he's speaking of third party support
Sep 25, 2013 2:30PM PDT

There's a lot of other countries that will not, maybe can not, switch over that fast and they will not only continue to use XP, they will continue to provide third party software for it, not unlike Avast antivirus still provides for Windows 2000 even till now. XP will die off quick in same manner win98 did, when hardware drivers are no longer produced for it by computer vendors and motherboard manufacturers. As new controller chips and the newer multicore processors came onto motherboards is when win98 took it's biggest plunge from continued use. I still have a copy of it installed in a virtual hard drive under VPC 2004 with games installed for my youngest, which her older sisters played years ago. So, even windows 98 isn't really completely dead yet. A popular subject on youtube is loading older "defunct" operating sytems into virtual sandboxes on virtual hard drives where they are protected by the newer system surrounding them, not used on internet, but still used with favorite old softwares and games. The younger generation has a growing retro movement for running the old systems that way, to see what it was like, to experience it. Enjoy looking at over 2 million google hits on the subject. If you add "youtube" to that search you still have over a million hits on it. There's already over 15 million hits on installing XP into a virtual system.

THAT'S the continuing future of XP!

It would seem the death of XP has been greatly exaggerated here.

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Oh ok, third party support, but from whom.
Sep 25, 2013 7:00PM PDT

With so many end-users still hosting XP, has a relying 3rd party Vendor stepped up. There are so many vendors out-there supporting millions of end-users. Who can determine who need what ?. I conclude, "one don't fit all", such a headache to rely on speculation..
So, I am forced to move on to the next operating system, and Microsoft know this. I as do many end-users, likewise me, I want my system up and running now, and don't have the time or patience to search for Internet support, everytime I log-on.

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Eventually
Sep 25, 2013 11:46PM PDT

It will all become interactive TV anyway as the two continue merging together into a single all encompassing system.

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Not For Critical Security Fixes
Sep 28, 2013 3:51PM PDT

What third-party will be able to create security fixes? China?

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Why not?
Sep 29, 2013 6:35AM PDT

They're the ones creating all the hacks! Shocked

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The Problem
Sep 25, 2013 10:44AM PDT

Vendors have a lot of $$ invested in systems running on XP. Then they have to ADD on other stuff to make it work with VISTA. Then ADD WIN 7. Now Windows 8. I still see software that says it can run on everything back to Windows 2000. Vendors creating brand NEW stuff? Yes, you are correct there. But most take their old stuff and just tweak it. Look at the range of a lot of somtware in terms of what OSes they support. It is usually not one or two if the software has been around a while.

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Just purchased windows 7
Sep 25, 2013 10:55AM PDT

I was going to keep XP because I liked it and knew the ins and outs. Decided to buy a new desktop with windows 7 while I still could. I know you could fix windows 8 to look and feel like 7 but why do that if you want 7. I think they are going to make everything work together like phone, ipad etc with tiles. I don't have a cell phone so my work on the computer doesn't call for apps. Anyway I just got tired of learning something that I didn't like. My XP I gave away and I loved it but only had 2 gigs memory and 80 hard drive. Still had plenty of room on the hard drive but I know windows 7 would not work very well. Just my take from a grandmother.

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"Just purchased windows 7"
Sep 25, 2013 7:46PM PDT
Enjoy Windows 7, I have had mine since 2009. One feature I like is: It will tell you if a driver is available and search for drivers, on programs your load onto it. Nice feature, yet I miss XP..
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Many Windows XP programs Work on Windows 7 and Windows 8.
Oct 2, 2013 2:09PM PDT

Actually if you do decide to leave Windows XP after support end many of the XP software works on windows 7. I have 32 bit windows 7 and 32 bit Windows 8 Pro. And I have installed Windows Movie Maker 2.1,Mplayer 32 WMP.5.1,XP Wordpad,XP paint, XP sound recorder even Clipboard viewer,all from my Windows XP computer.Which I transferred the program files onto my Windows Vista,7 and 8 computers and ALL of them are working. I even have got the Windows XP sound scheme,and Windows XP screensavers. I have also just installed Windows Messenger 5.1 for windows XP on windows 7 and windows 8 and that is working too! My windows 7 is looking more like Windows XP every day!

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Windows XP vs Windows 7
Sep 28, 2013 5:07AM PDT

I plan to use XP for as long as I can because it's what my HP Netbook has installed for the OS. I do have Windows 7 for my laptop and would like to install it on the netbook but I'm not sure if it'll fit.. will it? I have nothing extended on it for drive or ram space.

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Upgrade Advisor
Sep 29, 2013 8:19AM PDT

Try the Microsoft Upgrade Advisor. That might help.

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'Old' computer?
Sep 29, 2013 10:31AM PDT

Rather than trash a perfectly good computer because hardware won't accept Win 7 or Win 8 try a Linux distro.
I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 for this as I want something 'new' to look and feel totally different to what I was using

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HP OS and HHD are numbered for factory re-install price.
Sep 29, 2013 10:36PM PDT
HP netbooks are strictly controlled by the factory, you can't personally upgrade OS and HHD. To do so you must give HHD serial number to HP factory, they will send exact same HHD for a nominal price, and then send OS on a USB download, for a price, I estimated total about a buck eighty.

Call the number listed in your HP Netbook packet, they will confirm what I just said/
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HP NETBOOK
Sep 30, 2013 12:17AM PDT

Thank You for the information. makes complete sense considering the limited inputs.

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HP Netbook Shelf-life
Sep 30, 2013 7:42PM PDT

Here is the kicker, the HP Netbook HHD usually fails just after warranty expiration. This failure ocurred exactly 2 months for my Little Nephew, I was summoned to fix it. After a number of repair scenarios & attempts, and inserting non-HP hard drives, repair failed. I finally called HP tech Support, whom asked for model no,, HHD serial no. etc, that OS will be sent in USB download, they gave me a price, at around a buck eighty.