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Pls. help me understand why my new PC isn't any faster

Mar 29, 2005 11:56AM PST

We have an HP Pavilion 6630 that we purchased in 1/2000. When we first purchased it, it was quite fast, but the past year it has slowed down a lot. I based that on the fact that web sites are requiring more RAM to view/use their web sites. Not sure if this is true, but it's what I think.

The specs for the Pavilion are: Intel celeron processor, 500MHz; 10.2GB Ultra DMA hard drive; 64MB RAM with up to 11MB allocated to video memory.

We are on dial-up and get 24,000 bps. DSL or cable not available in our area.

Since it was very slow, we dicided to buy a new PC with more RAM. This is what we purchased: eMachine W3052; Windows XP, SP2; 3000+ AMD Sempron processor; 120 GB ATA hard drive, 512 MB DDR.

We set it up and were kind of anxious to get on the internet to see how much faster it would be. We went to several web sites that were slow (Shockwave.com and Weather.com) with the old PC and they STILL took a long time to load. Well, we were very disappointed and can't figure out why it wasn't any faster.

Is it the processor, or the dial-up connection, or what? Not very knowledgeable about PC hardware, etc, so I am hoping someone can explain to me why the eMachine isn't performing better than the old HP.

We have returned the eMachine and won't buy another PC until I can understand what the problem is.

Will greatly appreciate your help.

Shirley

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Just sharing.
Mar 29, 2005 12:05PM PST

My neighbor brought their 5 year old laptop over and I let them borrow my wifi card to see what DSL does for an old machine. They were amazed.

Dial up is the bottleneck as well as any spyware on the machine.

Bob

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Cross-fingers...
Mar 29, 2005 12:15PM PST

Let me explain it this way: You use your old running shoes and have a good run. Now, you replace those shoes with a new pair, "will you run any faster"? Not likely...

You're still using the same telco dial-up ISP. It won't get any faster as long as everything is properly configured and it seems so, but you're at the mercy of the "outside telco world". If you're like me, I have 24.6K(best I can do) dial-up is hasn't gotten any faster being in a rural telco line. No fast broadband isn't out here either. However, what data you do get should once in your system be more quickly dispersed within the system for use. But that doesn't cure your problem. sorry....

good luck -----Willy Happy

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dial-up connection
Mar 29, 2005 11:04PM PST

I use that and yup it's slow.

Many web sites have loads of graphics on their pages.
Some of these graphics are huge.(data wise)
Some of these graphics are AD'S.

I use a host file which blocks the d/l of the AD.

Poor man's internet speeder-upper.

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I think I understand/Hosts file
Mar 30, 2005 10:26AM PST

Ok, you've made me see the light.Happy When we were in the Phoenix, AZ area last year we connected at about 42,000 bps, and when we moved here 8 months ago we connect at 24,000, and that is when the PC got slower and slower. Never put two and two together until reading your replies. As for the RAM, I know that it is better to have more simply because some sites require more memory than I have and they simply won't open or they say my memory is low. I will live with this until I can find another HP computer. I didn't like the eMachine for a lot of reasons.

As for the Hosts file, Bob B., can you tell me how I can add this to my PC?

Thanks to all of you.

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Shirley, About the HOSTS File..It's Easy...
Mar 30, 2005 12:18PM PST

Here's a good link where you can read about it, where to place it, and what it does:

What is the Hosts file?

I put a HOSTS file on all our computers. Below is a link of the one I use but there are a lot available on the internet.:

HpGuru's HOSTS File Download Location

In order to place this file on your XP machine, download the HOSTS.zip file from the link above. Unzip the file so you can see the HOSTS.txt file. (If you want to look inside the file at this time, simply double click on the file to view the "banned" sites inside.) When you're ready, RIGHT click on the file, choose "Rename", then type so the file is name "HOSTS" with NO FILE EXTENSION. In order to work correctly, it CAN NOT have the .txt file extension. Now RIGHT click on the "HOSTS" file, choose "Copy". Now double click on "My Computer" on your desktop, then double click on the "C" drive icon, then the "Windows" folder, then the "System32" folder, then the "Drivers" folder, then the "Etc" folder. RIGHT click on a blank area in that folder, choose "Paste" and the HOSTS file will be placed in the correct folder. Choose "yes", if it asks you to replace the other version that's already there.

Now click on Start-Run, type "services.msc" (without the quotes), then click on OK. When the "Services" window loads, scroll down to the "DNS Client" listing, RIGHT click on it, choose "Properties". When that opens, in the "Start Up Type" line, use the drop down arrow to select "Manual". then in the "Service Status Line section, click on the "Stop" button. Now click on "Apply", then OK. Now close the "Services" window by clicking on the X in the upper right corner.

Now restart the computer. You're ready to use the HOSTS file...You'll notice when you visit websites, including the Cnet site, there will be a number of missing advertisements. If you don't like the general look of the "holes", there is a small program that can be installed which will fix that. It's called "eDexter" at the link below:

http://accs-net.com/hosts/eDexter.html
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If for some reason, you don't like the HOSTS file, simply delete it from the C\Windows\System32\Drivers\etc folder. It's also important to remember, the HOSTS file is a list of "banned" websites. If one of your favorite sites is in that list, you can easily open the HOSTS file in Notepad and remove that single site, save the file as it is, then continue using it.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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HOSTS File
Mar 31, 2005 9:53AM PST

Hi Grif: Tks for all of the info and links. You said
"In order to place this file on your XP machine". I don't have XP anymore. I returned it the next day. Wasn't sure if your instructions would work on W98SE, so the first thing I did was click on Start/Run and typed "services.msc" and got a message "CANNOT FIND FILE "SERVICES.MSC" OR ONE OF IT'S COMPONENTS, ETC"
Should this file be on W98SE? If so, is there another way to get to it instead of "RUN"?

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Shirley, Windows 98 Is Totally Different
Mar 31, 2005 11:09AM PST

First, there's no need to access the "Services" because there is no such area on Windows 98 and you don't need to turn off the "DNS Client". In addition, you place the HOSTS file in a different location on Windows 98. The entire procedure is easier on 98. If you read the links that I provided earlier, on Windows 98, you place the HOSTS file (remember NO file extension) in the "C\Windows" folder...After placing it there, then install "eDexter" and you're ready to go.

Hope this helps.

Grif

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(NT) (NT) Tks. Grif, for the info. Yep, W98 was easier. :)
Apr 1, 2005 10:09AM PST
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Shirley, you may already...
Mar 31, 2005 7:02PM PST

do this but, make sure you do not have any spyware and delete the temp. internet files. These 2 things make a big difference. Just my 2 cents.

Chuck

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Slow PC
Apr 1, 2005 1:13AM PST

As a WAG (wild-*** guess) I think your dial-up is very slow. I routinely get 50K with mine. No PC will be faster if the line coming in is so slow! I am cursed with dial-up also, but mine routinely gives me 50K.

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Direcway.com (high speed satellite internet service)
Apr 1, 2005 2:19AM PST

Try these guys: http://www.get-direcway.com/index.htm I believe your new computer is fine, it's just your ISP, dial-up is in the last century. I have cable internet myself, if these services are not available in your area give these guys a try.

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Direcway.com
Apr 1, 2005 10:12AM PST

Hi Flytank:
Checked out the site and it's a little to expensive for my budget. Guess I'll have to stick with dial-up for now(: , but thank you for the info.

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keep your eyes open
Sep 7, 2005 12:55AM PDT

Of course, everything depends on what is offered in your area. Keep an eye on broadband service providers and possible dropping prices. Verizon is kicking off the challenge with 768K service for 14.95/month (dial-up is 56K max, theoretically). It's on the slow end for broadband, but blows away dial-up.

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slow internet
Sep 6, 2005 5:08PM PDT

if you are on a dial-up modem (and have never been on high speed access), you probably don't realize how slow dial-up is. If everything else on your new computer works fast (like when you open Word or a file), is quite probable it is your internet connection that is slow.