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Please help me understand today's tablet craze?!

Feb 22, 2013 8:12AM PST
Question:

Please help me understand today's tablet craze?!


I don't understand about the mobile tablets. I have used and
programmed computers for over 30 years. I have always told everyone
that laptops are so mobile. Now, everyone has gone nuts about
tablets. Why???? There is little storage. The keyboard screen is
pathetic. A tablet has no screen protection unless you buy a case.
Don't get me wrong, I use touch screen phones but typing on a
physical board is sooo much faster. Now, I was told that using a
tablet with a printer can be very difficult. What is going on? I
thought that maybe the cost is the key. Now there is an Apple iPad
that costs $1000. Great laptops cost less! Please help me understand
this craze, is this a fad? Your thoughts are appreciated.

--Submitted by: John C.

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Blackberry Playbook
Feb 23, 2013 2:54AM PST

I recieved a Blackberry Playbook as a gift a few weeks ago. I never would have bought one myself, I didn't see the point.
What I have noticed so far:
Cons: Doesn't have all the windows programs I'm used to.
Is rubbish at file editing
Cannot use googledrive sync.

Pros:
Fits into my coat pocket
After writing a sync program, I have access to all my needed documents on the go
Is very good for reading documents
Response time is quick
Has good calender syncing
MP3 Player
Bluetooth and Wifi

I find it really great, that I can take the Playbook with me and read my latest documents on the bus. It's also great for use in meetings, as it barely takes up desk space, so I can use my paper documents as well. I can also pass the device around to show others what I was looking at.
A laptop needs a seperate table, I always need to find that chair beside the power point and projector cable.
As the Playbook OS and programs were designed for the hardware, everything is very fast, even faster than a laptop.

It's the best reading device, for home and office. However not usfull for creating/editing documents. But good for sending/checking email on the go, or quickly checking the next train connection, thanks to mobile-phone internet connection sharing per bluetooth.
And it can also run lots of the good android games available, if the reading gets boring.

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Sorry, I can't help you
Feb 23, 2013 3:50AM PST

I have the same questions you have. I have a spectacular laptop that cost me only $279 (Acer, after $50 rebate) and it does everything I want it to. It hooks up wirelessly with a number of accessories, including my main printer. Sure, it's big and it weighs a few pounds, but I wouldn't trade it for a tablet. I might be happier with one, but I'm not about to spend several hundred dollars just to have the latest thing. I don't think tablets are a fad, though. I think that people that get on the tablet-track find that it meets most of the important needs, and what it doesn't do doesn't bother them. Tablets are pretty impressive, but I would guess that you and I are about the same age and this allows us to remember the first K-pro, Commodore, and Apple IIe. That puts everything in a different perspetive.

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The Osbourne Effect!
Feb 23, 2013 3:53AM PST

It's been a few years but it still happens.
Bob

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Love my KindleFire.
Feb 23, 2013 3:53AM PST

It fits happily in normal size purse. It keeps all my books and audiobooks just fine. And pictures. And OneNote. And now I love to watch movies/series on Netflix and HBOGO when babysitting at my daughter's house who has no TV movie programing. Or at some hotspot. It works better for streaming than either of my 2 laptops: an old HP Dell and a little Acer. Rarely ever touch either one - except sometimes on trips just in case I want to do something serious I haven't figured out how to do yet on my Kindle - like watch the Olympics in Tennessee mountain house when their TV was down. The Kindle can probably do that too. When I am at home in my house I live on my desktop computer.

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Phew !!! Thought I was the only sane one left!!
Feb 23, 2013 5:55AM PST

Completely agree with you regarding the use of Tablet vs Laptops unless one is purely interested in playing puerile games from the various app stores.
I have managed to output documents from my Samsung Galaxy Tab but the font scaling and colour mapping is by no means satisfactory. However much "cloud storage space" you have, eventually it is likely that you will need some hardcopy output and this is where the fun can begin.

Sorry I can not provide any logical answer to your question but at least you know there are others that share your scepticism

Dave Jukes - UK

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Love of gadgets
Feb 23, 2013 7:03AM PST

1. I think that most of us who use home computers are gadgets freaks. I mean that in a good way.

2. I download books to read or listen to from my public library. I watch Netflix and Hulu Plus, all on my desktop/laptop. I can get to bed earlier and enjoy it more on my tablet.

3. Touch screen seems to be the way of the future, and I thought that this would be a good way to get into Windows 8. Love the Dell Latitude 10.

4. Long battery life.

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The Business of Business
Feb 23, 2013 7:06AM PST

Like it or not, a large part of computing is for business. When the iPAD came out many executive-types bought them. They are cool, light and mobile. Very shortly, however, all of the tablets left the office and never returned. Why is that? I mean, they are soooo popular! Well, here it is in a nutshell.

1) Try swiping your finger across the screen 8 hours+ every day, all day. Not a lot of fun if you are used to resting your wrist on your desk and moving the mouse around. So I see an erogonomic disadvantage. Try this yourself with your monitor at work (if you can reach it). Most of these people are on their systems ALL day long because that is their job.

2)Tablets, as well as smartphones and laptops are easily stolen as they can fit in a newspaper or a trash can. No, I'm not saying all cleaning staff that come in at night are theives. It's just harder to catch them.

3) Sometimes, you have to run real applications. Many, especially legacy applications that businesses may not have the money or source code for a re-write, are needed and just don't work on any tablet. There are few applications for tablets to access the mainframe.

4) Where I work, 98% of the workers are not "travelers". They have no need for mobile computing and most are NOT allowed to telecommute. We have very critical data and most of that data is NOT allowed in the cloud such as medical patient data (HIPAA rules), Criminal data (CJIS), credit card information (FACT act).

5) A lot of places don't have or need WIFI due to the above reasons.

Picture businesses with hundreds of people per floor and see if you really think that these people need mobile computing. Maybe for a sales department or for consulting I can see it.

So, John, while there may be this craze out there you need to ask yourself the simple question. What is it that you need this device for? Especially if it won't fit in your pocket.

As for e-Readers, I don't think a lot of Kindle people will be giving up their e-readers. iPADs and other tablets (even the kindle fire) are difficult to see in direct sunlight. People, like my gf, like to read out by the pool in direct sunlight (especially here in California) and you need e-ink for that.

What it really boils down to is this: first decide if you really need one. Then weigh the cost and remember that they are not easy to lug around even if they are lightweight. The "cool factor" only lasts just so long. Also remember that any application that runs on your PC does not necessarily run on a laptop. Or, even if there is an app, you might not enjoy using it.

Howie

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Re: ereaders
Feb 25, 2013 2:02PM PST

Plenty of folks are already giving up their first & second generation Nooks & Kindles for iPads & higher end Android Tablets. You don't have to believe this is the case, but I see it frequently. They see the newer devices as more flexible and a better value since they are capable of a lot more than e-book reading.

Truth be told about e-ink in bright sunlight. Most of the ebook readers still do not perform well in especially bright places with direct sunlight. It's not a deal breaker for most though since that's not the primary place for such activities. Conversely, the iPad display is not as hard on the eyes when reading ebooks as originally thought.

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Sorry, Not True
Feb 26, 2013 1:39PM PST

I don't know where you got your info on e-ink, but it is completely false. We have an e-ink reader and it is PERFECT, even in the strongest sunlight and no glare. Does a heck of a lot better than trying to use my iPhone for anything outdoors. So, irrespective of whether or not it is a "deal-breaker", Darlene won't give up her e-ink Kindle for anything. And there is no reason not to have both. She can have a kindle fire if she wants to or anything else in the tablet world. She just doesn't see the need to carry that around ever. Especially when she travels. But the Kindle e-ink goes everywhere when she travels. So, unless you have actually seen e-ink in the sun, please tell your source they are flat-out wrong on that.

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It's really not complicated to comprehend...
Feb 23, 2013 8:08AM PST

John,
It's very simple. It's part fad, part trend, part hype, but there is method to the madness. First off, just because there's an iPad for $1000 doesn't mean you HAVE to buy it. You can buy perfectly acceptable tablets running Android that will do just about anything you can do on an iPad for $70 USD.
As far as the mobility factor goes, a 7" tablet will fit into a larger pocket. I have a vest that has an internal pocket and my tablet fits it like a glove. It'll fit into my pants as well.
What's it good for? Plenty of things. I can take a quick note using a freebie notepad app. Works great when I have to go to work at a clients and need to monitor my hours. A few keystrokes won't kill you nor drive you up the wall. Writing a book like "War and Peace" - yeah... That will get on your nerves.
I also use it for surfing the web. Specifically, my local supermarket has online only deals and coupons that I use the tablet to access the site with. I can pick and choose the deals I want - and it also functions as a digital shopping list. I log into the store's free wifi and look up whatever I need.
It's also saved me at least $10. I buy stuff and on occasion, the digital coupons and deals don't always register or expire before their time at the store level. But I just whipped out the tablet, showed them the deal on their own website and I got the discounted price.
Keep in mind, this is a wifi only tablet that has no built in 3G or 4G which is fine and dandy. I don't have to pay an additional bill for it. It's mine, I own it free and clear.
Additionally, you can also play games - like the viral hit Angry Birds - and the various incarnations of that game.
So, yes, for light duty things, a tablet can do plenty for you. It's not that laptops aren't portable, it's just that tablets (especially the smaller 7" ones) are MORE portable. Is it a replacement for a desktop or laptop? Of course not! But it IS a handy tool for when you don't want to lug that 10 lb laptop somewhere - like grocery shopping. I still do 99.9999% of what I do with computers on my desktop, and that isn't likely to change anytime soon.

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Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of
Mar 1, 2013 11:20AM PST

... the American people. Or most people in general. Sure, tablets have some practical uses, but mostly it's just another manufactured want - a fad. Another toy. Or some kind of status symbol for some.

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TEN pound laptop?
Mar 1, 2013 1:43PM PST

What is that dinosaur? We have one that's under four pounds! This isn't a "notebook" but a full fledged laptop from HP with an i-5 processor and 8GB memory. OR for a lot less money, you can get a 12" screen "notebook" that's under two pounds. If you can't heft two pounds, you can't lift a tablet, that's just under a pound, most likely, and is pretty hard to use as anything but an e-reader (thanks, yes, I have an e-reader, and that's all I use it for.)
I'm not much into the mobile craze, I do have a (basic) cel phone, but I really don't need to carry the internet around with me, nor receive "texts" when I'm in my car, or at the store. I can see where it might be useful for some people who don't carry maps in their car to Google something, but I do carry maps, they don't require power at all.
I'm actually awaiting the day when screen size won't matter. There will be no reason to have a fixed device size, your entire computer will be on something the size of an SD card, and the "screen" will float in the air (Holodeck style) at whatever size you want it, there won't BE a physical screen on ANY device, be it at home or mobile. Keyboards, for those who need them (like me) will fold up and go in your pocket, and have better tactile feedback than the current laptops. Pointing devices/alternative input will be the challenge, as you won't be able to "touch" a screen as the current crop of tablets makes you do, nor will a traditional mouse really work very well. Probably the foldable keyboard will have something similar to a touch pad on it, which works great, much better than a traditional mouse for most uses. Plus there will be some type of "tablet" that's just a rolled up piece of plastic that you can use "pen" input on, and have it send to your small SD sized pocket computer.
Until those come along, I don't see much need to replace the hardware I have now.

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<sigh> Sarcasm doesn't travel well via plain text...
Mar 1, 2013 5:43PM PST

For what it's worth... MOST laptops are still fairly bulky and heavy - even the Macbook Air. Fine. They don't all weigh in at 10 lbs. You still completely missed the point.

My tablet - a 7" Ainol Novo 7 Paladin - weighs in at 12 OUNCES. That's just over 340 grams for those more familiar with metric. If I include the leatherette case, it's 15 ounces - or about 425 grams. That's still less than one standard US pound.

The problem with paper maps - there are actually quite a few.

1.) They go out of date, requiring that you buy a new one every few years. Sure, your tablet will eventually need to be replaced - but the new one will be even better and likely be able to do more than the ones available today.
2.) They're bulky. A Thomas Guide is heavier than 12 oz.
3.) They're a pain to fold back to the way they originally came.
4.) You can't zoom a paper map. You can zoom in on a tablet. With Google Maps, you can even get a STREET view.
5.) Paper maps are a PITA to read in the dark. Tablets provide their own light.
6.) The fold out variety of map takes up lots of space. A 7" tablet will always be 7" - regardless of the map's size.
7.) Paper maps can't help you figure out turn by turn directions. A tablet can... Just ask any map site (Google, Bing, Mapquest, etc...) for directions between two locations. Problem solved.

I could go on but I think I made my case. There are some significant advantages to a tablet.

Yes, you can go ahead and wait for a future gizmo that's the size of an SD chip and can project a screen. In the meantime, I'll be living in the here and now and enjoying the technology we've got available NOW.

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Yeah, some are that big
Mar 2, 2013 5:12AM PST

My laptop sans the power cord is 9.4lbs. Add the cord and you're pushing the better part of 11.5lbs. It's new (had it less than a year) and it's a gaming machine with a 17.3" screen and as much power as machines costing upwards of a $1,000 more, especially since I bumped the RAM to 16GB 8-) I wanted one like that for two reasons. First, I am a very large man and regular sized laptops are a challenge to use over long periods, and second, if it is powerful enough to drive the latest and greatest games for the next 5 years (and it is, he, he), it will do anything else I ask of it which is important to me because I absolutely detest being told "no" by a machine.

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Better question
Mar 3, 2013 8:17PM PST

Why spend $70 or $1000 to buy a tablet to replace a $2 pencil and small pad of paper. I don't get it.

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Re: pencil and paper
Mar 3, 2013 8:20PM PST

Yesterday, I tried to play Angry Birds with a pencil and a small pad of paper. It wasn't a succes. Can that be a reason?

Kees

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You need to get the kid's wood blocks out.
Mar 4, 2013 1:42AM PST

There is the Angry Birds Knock On Wood Game which lets you play in the real world. It's cheaper than a tablet.

Bonus for creating new levels.
Bob

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Tablet pros and cons
Feb 23, 2013 10:56AM PST

Hi John,

You are not alone with this question. There are a few things that must be realized to help answer the question. First, our society has become a need it now, must be connected type. The addiction of social networking, constantly checking email and the like are part of what fuels this frenzy. I see a tablet as mostly an entertainment device. If you want a productivity tool, you will still use a laptop or desktop computer. Many of the consumers out there mainly use facebook and twitter, email, browse the web, read e-books and view photo and video. Given that, a portable device with good battery life is great. Personally, I will wait until I am in front of my laptop for most of these. Yes, I do get email on my smartphone and use the calendar, but only because it a convenience for my business. Otherwise, I would probably just own a plain old flip phone. Watch people around you. They always have their face stuck in their phone. It's more offensive to today's generation to unfriend them on facebook, than it is to hit them with a baseball bat. The tablet is really no different than just having a larger version of a smartphone for most of these needs. Part of the problem also is the media hype. Everyone is convinced by the marketing that this is something you MUST have. They tell us that computers are a dying breed and you must have this portable device, and cloud services to be able to function.
Unfortunately, this is not a fad. Today's generation of social network addiction will keep the tablet industry growing. This generation wants everything electronic, it's cool, it's convenient, it makes things they do easier. The downside is take away the technology, and many cannot function even at the basic level. Yes, there are a few exceptions out there, where the tablets can serve a useful work tool, but those are limited. Most of us will still be using real computers, and if we have tablets, it will be a secondary device. I've worked IT for 23 years and have seen many gadgets come and go. Most have been fueled by a need (or lack of) and reality. Today's gadgets are more fueled by a want, and a perception of reality. Like every device, it still gets down to personal needs and desires. The fact that you have asked the question to begin with tells us that you don't have the need yet, and have a better sense of how to spend your money on tech devices. Congratulations on having the fore thought, and not just running out and following the crowd. Although I work in technology, I too, have not seen the need, and certainly have not been able to justify the cost for something that for me, will basically just be a toy.

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Tablet vs Laptop
Mar 1, 2013 11:39PM PST

John,

I felt very much the same as you. I have been watching the tablet wars and waiting. A few things happened lately that convinced me to make a decision. Windows 8 was one. Now I could have the same operating system on my PC, phone and tablet without switching to Apple. That said, I still ran into a few roadblocks. The screen size at 10" doesn't work so great for me. Some apps are fine others like brousers, touching tiny links etc. with fat fingers not so great... I also felt that having so many different devices to do the same basic functions seemed overkill. Why not combine the price of a Tablet with the price of a laptop and put that into one very nice device. After much reviewing I ended up with a convertable. The Dell XPS 12 to be exact. Runner up was the New Surface Pro. (10"screen)
This has been a great decision for me. I started out using it as a laptop most of the time, however I'm noticing more that I use it in tablet mode. When the need arises I just open it up flip the screen over and start typing away on a great keyboard. It has plenty of power i7 8G of ram etc. All your programs will work, printers etc. Whats not to like?
The only thing I will say as a negative might be battery life 5hrs and weight for use as an e-reader. My solution has been a simple Nook as my reader. It is light as a feather, cheap, and goes about a month on a charge. No worrys...

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Tablet pros and cons
Mar 2, 2013 4:44AM PST

Dear pcwizzard2600,

THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU. Happy Your, should I say "philosophical approach" to the stu....ty of the average consumer (you were polite enough not to use that word) was what was needed here. The way needs are being created is obnoxious. I copied and sent your text to a dozen younger people. Mischief Being a drone manufacturer I am not anti-business, but it is hard to feel at home in the business community any longer.
There is not a domain in life anymore where we are not being constantly exposed to a shower of nonsense and deliberate misdirection. Be it banks or fund managers trying to make us believe they know how to make our money grow, be it simple things like titles and job designations. My daughter was "Team Leader International Marketing Communications" Nobody, not even I her father understood what that meant, and the Team Leader had one single person under her command !
My hobby is magic, and that in my view is the only domain where misdirection is allowed and legitimate as long as it is directed towards spectators who came to watch a performance of magic. Nobody in his right mind would think the lady is really being chainsawed into two pieces though it looks like it.
Finland is especially technology crazy. In Germany many businesses still use pre XP Windows versions. Here you owe it to yourself to upgrade to Vista and then to Seven and now to Eight. As was well documented on this site, if you need a PC for doing work, there is no need to upgrade from XP, and a tablet may be fun, but do not believe you need it for work. Fooling others is bad enough, fooling yourself is the worst sin of all.

Kaarlo von Freymann Helsinki Finland

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Everything in IT is a Fad
Feb 23, 2013 12:22PM PST

According to Bill Gates, the Internet was a passing fad. Just before PCs, mainframes were a fad. I remember 3.5" floppy disks were a BIG fad. Today, some are trying to make the term "cloud" be a fad but not too many realize the difference between private and public clouds. Once there is a huge breach of private data (credit card numbers, SSNs, medical information...) that will be a passing fad too.

It is too early to tell if tablets will be a fad yet. Just because huge numbers of tablets were sold, that doesn't mean that there won't be a decline.

Oh, and articles in Wikipedia are not writen by experts. I don't trust that as a source for anything.

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Choices--that simple
Feb 23, 2013 1:56PM PST

I am not a business user.

I own a netbook and a recently purchased Surface RT (I did not buy the attachable keyboard).

My tablet is lighter and slimmer than my netbook, making it more portable for me and my backpack.

My commute is 3-4 hours weekdays plus I have 1 1/2 hours of lunch/breaks.

When I will need to type extensively during the day, I bring my netbook. I believe that has happened only once since I started purchasing tablets over two years ago.

But I have the option if needed.

I have not installed one game on my RT. I have not played any games on my RT.

I do keep current on my emails, surf the net for news, use YouTube and Netflix, etc. I also catch up on TV shows and movies (since Microsoft was smart enough to support micro SD cards and USB ports [any device which does not is dead to me], I highly recommend the TViX player/recorder, HomeRun device w/ Windows Media Center and the PlayLater service for digital material to watch).

When I come home from work, I easily wirelessly print material from my tablet that I feel deserves to be hard copied. (I think most new home printers support wireless printing. Mine set up so easily, I still don't believe it.)

Again, not a business user but someone keeping informed and entertained during the weekdays.

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Play flash videos?
Feb 23, 2013 8:51PM PST

Will they or won't they? When people are bragging on tablets, especially Apple, I never hear anything about flash video. There are thousands of flash videos on the internet. I want something that will play anything that I encounter. Will any tablets do that?

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Specific Flash based sites?
Feb 23, 2013 11:30PM PST

Apple--I don't touch any more--too locked down without USB or SD cards.

Now on my Surface, I'm on YouTube right now (which I'm assuming is Flash based--I don't know).

Is there some site that I can check that you think won't run on my Surface because of Flash?

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You might want to review this article
Feb 26, 2013 2:46AM PST
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Flash
Feb 24, 2013 2:58AM PST

Well, my old Samsung tablet has Flash so I can play anything. I didn't mention it because Flash on newer units is gone. Don't know what new tablets are running to solve that problem.

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Flash.
Feb 24, 2013 3:16AM PST

I have an Android tablet that runs Flash perfectly. But most sites are moving to HTML5 which means that the days of Flash seem numbered.

Dafydd.

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Flash?
Feb 24, 2013 6:20AM PST

I cannot find anything on Flash that I need to view. YouTube, Vimeo, Netflix, HBOGo and CNET all play fine on my iPad. Flash is yesterday's news. It is time to put this straw man out of its misery.

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Flash videos
Feb 24, 2013 7:38PM PST

Go to the Bing videos site, which brings together many flash sites, including YouTube. Search a topic that has a lot of results, and see how many your tablet will play, other than You Tube.

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Bing video?
Mar 3, 2013 5:26AM PST

I looked at the Bing video site and could not find anything I would want to watch. Celebrities caught smoking? That's not a way that I want to spend my time.