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Please help me understand today's tablet craze?!

Feb 22, 2013 8:12AM PST
Question:

Please help me understand today's tablet craze?!


I don't understand about the mobile tablets. I have used and
programmed computers for over 30 years. I have always told everyone
that laptops are so mobile. Now, everyone has gone nuts about
tablets. Why???? There is little storage. The keyboard screen is
pathetic. A tablet has no screen protection unless you buy a case.
Don't get me wrong, I use touch screen phones but typing on a
physical board is sooo much faster. Now, I was told that using a
tablet with a printer can be very difficult. What is going on? I
thought that maybe the cost is the key. Now there is an Apple iPad
that costs $1000. Great laptops cost less! Please help me understand
this craze, is this a fad? Your thoughts are appreciated.

--Submitted by: John C.

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Looking Toward the Future of Touchpads & Laptops
Mar 2, 2013 11:50PM PST

I do agree with all of what you say but you must qualify the bit about manufacturers willingness to sell you a cheap Tablet. You must be aware of the fact that Cloud Storage costs money and this is where they hope to make their big profit. It's a bit like the old camera days. Give away a cheap, easy to use camera because you know that you are going to make a fortune selling film and processing.

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Who can guess...
Feb 22, 2013 12:10PM PST

WHAT makes children happy these days.

For a really good scare, watch the first few episodes of Syfy's 'Continuum'...and think of just how far away that future really is! Computers mounted to your eyeballs like permanent contacts.

On the other hand, maybe 'The Walking Dead' will win first...then who will care?

Point being: how many 'Simon Sez' machines or even '8 function Calculators' do you know have survived? There is always a "New" iphone on the horizon, and a plethora of 'gotta have its' in line to be first. Use what works for you, and they will be happy to fill up the landfill for you.

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LOL
Feb 22, 2013 2:06PM PST

l8rb: I had to give you a Thumb's Up, just because you mentioned two of my favourite shows! Love Perhaps if Rick and Derek had computers in their eyes, it might help with locating the zombies. Not sure what it does to aid in seeing ghost wives, though. Wink

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why? its simple
Feb 22, 2013 12:46PM PST

the big dig on tablets follow

1. because it's there,
2. the media hype and the "Look at me,I'm Kool oope spell check cool"
3. because some of the early hand held gamers are growing up and the tablets remind them of the kiddie toy they had
4. they think the paperless way is the way to go. No books or papers to rustle with. Ever run out of TP???
5. on the rare occasion that a tablet is really the best option, like working in dirty, tight, or other difficult to function work areas and a laptop is not a viable option
6. Probably the most realistic use is because everyone else has one so I don't want to be left out.

My wife has one and uses it to play games. I have a laptop for word processing. we each have what we want and that is the bottom line. She can drop her pad in her purse when we travel and I carry laptop in a suitcase with a shoulder strap.

A pad has limited function for me and even though I carry a load I get more functionality.

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Nice
Mar 1, 2013 8:39AM PST

Well said, Sir.

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Dumbing Down
Feb 22, 2013 12:49PM PST

It's part of the dumbing down of computing. There are a lot of people who still don't (and may never) understand the difference between RAM and hard drive space. They can't navigate a directory tree of folders, and don't want to learn. They just want to press a button, and have it work.

These are the people who have a desktop full of shortcuts and could never organize them if they had to. Problem is what happens when the desktop is full. Tablets answer that question by letting you slide to the next desktop.

I have a tablet because I like to read in bed, and it's easier than a laptop, but I only have a couple dozen apps. Most of what I do is in the browser.

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RAM and Hard Drive Space
Feb 23, 2013 6:39AM PST

To a certain extent, they are the same. Look up PAGING FILE (Windows). If you can't expand it you get a memory error (not RAM; memory).

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No, they are not the same thing
Mar 1, 2013 8:59AM PST

RAM and hard drive space are two different things. When I say that my computer has 24 GB of memory, and someone else tells me that theirs has 300 GB of memory, I know beyond a doubt that they do not know the difference, especially since they are usually talking about an unmodified off-the-shelf cheapie.

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They are related in Windows However
Mar 2, 2013 1:35PM PST

There are three terms: "RAM", "Memory" and Hard Drive Space".

In Windows, "Memory" = RAM + Disk. You have a paging file. If you have a small disk or if your disk is too full, you WILL get memory errors (not RAM errors, Memory. If PAGEFILE .SYS is being used up it affects how your memory is used. It's been this way since the early days of Windows.

If someone told be they had a lot of RAM, that is one thing. Of course with an OS like Windows XP 32-bit, anything over 4 GB will be wasted, but that is another matter. We had another discussion on one of these forums were someone was getting an out-of-memory error and the person finally checked it out and it was his 65-GB hard drive was full and his pagefile could not expand.

So, as you correctly pointed out, RAM and disk space are NOT the same thing but, at least in Windows, there is a relation between the two.

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Say What?
Feb 22, 2013 2:42PM PST

Lee: When I read your opening question, I had to do two things: 1) check the actual date of your post, because it read as something written two years ago, and 2) I had to make sure that no one was spoofing you. (and this is said with utmost respect). Like everything else Tech, I was literally the first in my circle to own any of it. I was laughed at for owning a cell phone, a laptop, an MP3 player, a e-reader and finally a tablet. It took years and years for any of my friends to catch up, because they called each and every one of these devices, "a toy" or "gadget". I knew differently; these devices were "speaking my language."

This is the only way that I can describe to you how tablets make me feel: Have you ever personally experienced or seen a movie where a person comes in contact with computers when they first were available? And that person's eyes shine brighter and they exclaim, "I finally have something that thinks like me!!!!" (I imagine that this is how hackers and developer's feel: they literally are in sync with a computer's language: imagine Root or Finch in Person of Interest). Or, that scene when Helen Keller finally makes the connection that what Ann Sullivan is signing in her hand is identical to the water she's feeling?

Well, that's how dramatic tablets have been for me: I feel that I've lived long enough that FINALLY something has been made/developed that taps into the exact way that my brain processes material and I'm finally set free!

I never owned a computer until laptops became available, when they cost a solid gold brick. Why? I couldn't stand the feeling and thought of being "chained in place" to a single spot and I hated with a drooling passion, the blank-green-blinky screen. Everything about a computer, back then, felt hostile and non-organic; it felt like sensory deprivation, to me. And don't get me started on that crazy **** thing called a "mouse".

Then, along came the laptop, with a touch keypad. I was MOBILE, like I live my life every single day! And, the touch pad, for an artist, was responding to my fingers, just like the art materials I work with every day! There was still no Wi-Fi, but with a long enough ethernet cord, I could go "anywhere and everywhere", stringing the darn cable out my living room window to sit in my garden, which is my inspiration for projects and my blog.

Then, Wi-Fi came along! The world was coming closer and closer to integration into how I think and move! I do NOT work in an office! I do NOT sit at a desk for a living! I do NOT sleep in the same bed each night, but often a different bed each night for a week when I am lecturing! This is MY lifestyle and it suits me to a "t", but for others, they'd shrivel and die. Now, I could take 100% of my life's information, stored ON the computer instead of stupid "floppy disks" (which were NOT floppy nor a disk!) and if I needed exta space, I had a flash drive. Instead of hauling a projector and slides around, I could use my laptop for Powerpoint demonstrations. I could sit in ANY restaurant in ANY city in the World, and my office was WITH me, not stuck in some dreary, dusty corner of the house!!!

And then, Dream Upon Dream, came the tablet. How blessed I am to live long enough to experience it! Here was a device that got into my DNA: it understood me and how I think. I could TOUCH the screen and make it work...I no longer needed a dumb keyboard to lug around, as I took to SWYPE like a duck to water. Rather than tilting a laptop screen back and forth and back and forth for the right angle, I simply moved the tablet just like a book or magazine. And then there was the weight of the unit on your lap or your arms growing stiff on the table...ugh! It simplified my life, beyond measure!!! This is what I had to haul around with me when I traveled: laptop, laptop case, alarm clock, stop watch, digital camera and cord, address book, tons of books and magazines to read, at least 3 photo books showing my work, C.D's to listen to, DVD's to play on the optical drive, maps of towns I was in and going to, and some family photos to remind me of where to return back to. Now...100% of ALL OF THAT CRAP was on a 7" x 5" device...ALL OF IT!!! I could stream Pandora or switch to my downloaded CD's or better yet, stream my music from the Cloud. I could look at 100's of photos of my family, take photos with my tablet (Samsung Gal-Tab 7") and immediately mail them to clients, friends and family. I could find out exactly where I was going by looking at Google Maps and have it talk me there. I could hit "Places" and find the best Thai place in Boston or the best Pizza joint in Chicago. I could sit in a restaurant, save $2.00 each time by NOT buying the local paper and catch up on all the news around the globe. At night, rather than renting pricey hotel movies, I can stream from amazon...for free! And at night's end, read some more pages of my favourite book, set the alarm app, turn on the Pandora app, and fall asleep to music. All. On. One. Single. Device!

I've heard tablets called "The God Device" because it "knows all and does all." For someone in my position, who travels extensively, has their own business, is an artist and wants to stay connected, my time has finally come, with the advent of the tablet.

And Lee, if you still don't "get" why the tablet is so popular after reading my post, then Bless You for our differences. Love

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(NT) "Call_Me" you are beautiful!
Feb 23, 2013 4:29AM PST
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I agree
Feb 23, 2013 7:35AM PST

I agree with most of what you said, but I do love my desktop, keyboard, and mouse. I am retired and I look forward to my first cup of coffee in the morning, in my captain's chair, at my desktop. I am still most comfortable with the mouse and keyboard, but after my evening meal, its tablet time. It is my tv companion and my book to fall asleep with at night.

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Thanks, Jack & ijmg1474 <3
Feb 23, 2013 11:19AM PST

Thanks to Jack for your kind words and jimg, I "get it". My best friend has identical sentiments to you, regarding her home office. She has 3 kids, 2 dogs and a cat; her office is her sanctuary, retreat, personal space. As she's explained to me, if she got a tablet or laptop, she'd be forced to be with everyone, 24/7. But, if she has a desktop, she can close the door, have her "first cup of coffee in the morning" and gain some private "Me Time". She doesn't have the income to own a tablet of any sort but it's nice to know that you enjoy yours, jimg, and can enjoy the best of both worlds. Happy

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Why Don't I put a third wheel on my racing bike!
Mar 1, 2013 9:45AM PST

I have a fine bike that goes fast and does everything I need in a bike. Should I waste more money putting a third wheel on it? Well, that is how I feel about a tablet. All of the things that people use the tablet for can be done on 3 devices...a computer tower...a slim and light laptop...and a smartphone! The tablet is a waste of money like a third wheel on a racing bike. And don't give me that mobility crap. I do a ton of things anywhere with my smartphone , including make phone calls.

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This is THE Dumbest Thing I've EVER Read!
Mar 1, 2013 11:34AM PST

You can do ALL that stuff with a laptop - why do I need to buy a tablet (and spend MORE money) to do these things?

Unbelievable!

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Not clear . . .
Mar 1, 2013 10:14PM PST

why you carried all the maps, etc., when you had the laptop for most of it. I use Google Maps daily on my laptop or whatever computer is handy. I like the full-size screen for reading maps. The same goes for books (if I didn't have my e-ink Kindle), photos, etc. The alarm clock is in my ordinary cell phone, on my wristwatch (yeah, I know) or on the motel's nightstand.

All in all, this post leaves me sad. The tablet, as with any computer, is a machine. It does not "think" at all, like anyone; it does what programmers tell it to do. Those programmers are fallible regardless of what hardware and software they use or create. I don't want to divert this thread into that subject, but everyone I know can tell stories about that.

You state several times that you are an artist, so I'm assuming that "artistic license" operates when you make such statements as the one that Wi-Fi works "in any restaurant in any city in the world." Not even true in the USA; much less so in less-developed places.

You also seem to find some special emotional reward in owning new devices before your "friends." I'm not there. My friends are not interested in my technology stuff for more than a few minutes. I own things that serve purposes. I don't have money, learning-curve time, or emotional energy for that one.

I'm not Lee, but I still don't "get" why the tablet is so popular.

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today's tablet craze.
Mar 2, 2013 5:07AM PST

You could have just said you like it!

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Understandingtablet craze
Feb 22, 2013 3:16PM PST

It's a fad. Most tablet users are not using them as PC's. Speciality items are the main reason. For businesses they are light and portable for on site data entry (replaces paper and provides instant upload to home base computers). The housewife loves them for showing off photos on the bigger screen, much better than a pissy Iphone.
i believe they are a halfway house to better PC's that provide the best of both worlds.
Microsoft are heading in this direction with the new Surface PC and others are following. I'm waiting for the next generation which should have it all (at least a proper detachable keyboard).

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Business Use? Data Entry?
Feb 23, 2013 12:14PM PST

Data entry is very time-consuming using a keyboard. Many businesses don't want "light and portable". It is too easy for them to become mobile and float away. Especially if there is data on them. Maybe small businesses like a restaurant. I see one person show up with an iPad at meetings to take notes and she really struggles with it.

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A bit outdated, or perhaps example is narrow
Feb 25, 2013 1:46PM PST

It depends on what business you are in. A lot of businesses do like 'light and portable', because they aren't storing much on the device, but in the cloud. Small businesses don't generally have the budget to buy a dozen tablet PCs either. There are a few permutations here, but few absolutes.

If your person struggled taking notes on an iPad, she was either new to the device or simply not tech saavy. I could teach her in about two minutes though.

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Business Use? Data Entry?
Mar 1, 2013 9:29AM PST

I should have been clearer I guess but I thought it simple. I was not referring to businesses using them in or about the office. I was mainly thinking of Building inspectors, meter readers, delivery persons, estate agents, truckies etc. Anyone in the field who may have to enter tallies or comments or lists which, if done on paper have to be entered into a data base at end of day/week/month. Direct entry from the field reduces labour and provides instant update to the data base. I have personal experience with an estate agents building inspectors using tablets for this very purpose. They use an iPad which is considered cumbersome.

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Since you mention restaurants
Mar 4, 2013 7:58AM PST

since no one mentioned this, I am not in a place usually in the forefront of progress so this might everywhere but I saw it for the first time last year, a pizzeria near me gives all the diners a tablet to order from where you can see pics of the different pizzas, which has done away with the waiter writing on bit of paper and getting it wrong, as well as with the wait for the bill to be calculated. I don't know if the kitchens are computerised too, they could better organise the flow that way, it is decades I prophesied this. Cool

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I haven't seen any restaurants but...
Mar 4, 2013 12:43PM PST

I haven't seen any restaurants doing that, but our urgent care center gives you a tablet to check in with, and fill in your info, it is a really old windows xp tablet, and it is beyond slow to use, but a modern tablet would be great for this.

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Place my own order?
Mar 4, 2013 11:43PM PST

If I was handed a tablet to place my own order in a restaurant, I would leave, even if I had my tablet with me intending to use it while I ate. Technology is one thing. Lack of service in the SERVICE INDUSTRY is completely different.

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Just admit you are a luddite,
Mar 5, 2013 1:20AM PST

...and stubborn too Wink

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Portable, fast to open, long battery life
Feb 22, 2013 3:30PM PST

I did not think I would like a tablet. Now, it is my most used piece of electronics. I am typing this reply on my touch screen now while lying on my back on my couch. The battery life is about 3 times that of my laptop. The ease of carrying it around is tremendously greater. I open the Smart Cover and it is ready to go.

I handle all my emails and texts from the tablet. I do not print anything anymore. Most of my documents, forms and other paperwork is available as PDF files which I store in my iBooks library. A contract, policy manual, or technical bulletin is best created on a laptop or desktop but can be more easily accessible to be referenced by the user on a tablet.

When I am researching online, I can usually just snap a photo of the screen. Yes, I know you can do a screen shot on a windows laptop. But it is more effort and I can not as easily just quickly flip through my images on the laptop with the flick of a finger. I rarely make notes on paper anymore, instead I grab the tablet.

In my leisure world, I use the tablet for watching movies and TV shows as much as my actual tv. If I need to go to a different room or a different city the tablet and the movie can move with me. Audio books, financial podcasts, and Internet radio also move with me and audio plays with the screen shut down, drastically extending battery life.

I have a desktop computer that gets used a couple of times a month. I just do not like sitting at a desk. A laptop i use when I need to do a lot of typing and creation of content or need to use advanced software. A phone for the smallest form. But this tablet is by far my most frequently and consistently used device.

By the way, I do not play games, have never sent a tweet, and can reimage a computer or set up a network as needed.

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watching or doing?
Feb 24, 2013 4:32AM PST

Tablets are fine for looking at stuff, not creating anything of any consequence except for short text or forwarding stuff like pics.

They are a convenient toy, always on, very portable, very limited connectivity to other h/w.

It is a personal choice...use what works for you. desktop + laptop suits me just fine.

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Are You Describing a Samsung S 3 ?
Mar 1, 2013 10:02AM PST

I repeat...all the things you describe in that tablet can describe a good smartphone. Now don't get me wrong, when I say a good smarphone I didn't say great. Like those tablets, too many of these phones have a poor keyboard that could be improved if you use a real keyboard like the HTC G2. I shouldn't knock the tablet people I too have wasted my money on a Corvette car ($63000). It gets me around but so does a car costing a third of the price. Hey, you want a great light tablet with a real keyboard and long battery life...how about a Macbook?

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I have both
Mar 1, 2013 11:56AM PST

But if I get the choice for only one, I would take the notebook. A iPad with connected keyboard could be an alternative.

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Yet another Hook.
Feb 22, 2013 4:08PM PST

In my opinion Tablets are overpriced and yet another device that the sheeple "must" have...they`re hooks,much like a hook in a good song...dinnae be fooled Jim lad !