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player identified as HDD

Apr 1, 2009 9:10PM PDT

No matter what I do, or what kind of mp3 player I connect to my Windows xp Pro computer or which usb2 hub I use, they all show up as another Hard drive and wont allow music transfer of any kind, by any means. I've had no luck with a brand new 8Gig ipod nano and no luck with smaller cheaper 1Gig Element flash type players. I returned the ipod but when the Element player was connected to another machine, transfer was accomplished eaisly. What could be the hicup in my system's get-along?
Peace,
meanmike

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Sorry, I apologize in advance.
Apr 1, 2009 9:45PM PDT

But this sounds as if no one told you about the MTP and MSC "modes" of such players. I know the manuals for such things are small to non-existent and some won't use iTunes so those will wonder how to use the iPods.

I see nothing amiss with your experience. It would be what happens when you plugged in almost any player to any PC.
Bob

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MTP and MSC "modes" of such players
Apr 3, 2009 9:15AM PDT

Bob,
You're right. But neither did you. What "about the MTP and MSC "modes" of such players"? Was the Apology in advance a clue to some mp3 technology conspericy? Come clean, it'll make you feel better. Teach me the mistic knowledge of the ancients. Enlighten me and speak the truth of the mysterious acronistic "MTP and MSC modes" of such players.
Peace,pot, microdot
billsmasher

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Peace!
Apr 3, 2009 11:29AM PDT

My apology again. I'm not so much the answer man but try to arm you with the alphabet soup or "Three Letter Acronyms" (TLA) so you can hit up google, yahoo, ask or other places to catch up.

If I wrote about MTP or MSC modes, I'd just be duplicating the web.
Bob

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as for the iPod...
Apr 1, 2009 11:28PM PDT

You're supposed to be using iTunes to transfer your music. If you were trying to drag and drop via windows explorer, then of course it's no wonder why you weren't having any luck. You never mentioned using iTunes, so that's my guess.

You can also install Floola on the iPod to avoid using iTunes, but I believe you still need iTunes for the initial set up.

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as for the ipod
Apr 3, 2009 9:03AM PDT

Been there, done that...
didn't you believe me when I said I'd done all I could think of?
Any way, thanks for the suggestion.
Peace
billsmasher

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it's not that I didn't believe you
Apr 4, 2009 4:38AM PDT

But you didn't specifically say that you tried iTunes. And I've come across way too many people who didn't know they needed to install iTunes to transfer content to their iPods. While you don't come across as a noob, I had to mention it because you didn't.

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mp3 player modes
Apr 6, 2009 8:15AM PDT

Looks like bob really is going to do his best to reduce the clutter and duplication on the Internet. Make 'em work for it, ahy bob? While I admire your intentions, a little straight forward help is all us ignorants ask of the folks populating this small section of the web. Some of us actually enjoy being of some help to other members. Why post at all if only to suggest the asker search elsewhere for a solution? Thanks for your confidence in my ability to GOOGLE my problem. I trust another reader can clear up the mystery of transfering mp3 files from hard drive to portable device.
Peace,
billsmasher

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Sorry if I was unclear.
Apr 6, 2009 11:48AM PDT

If you don't know what the name of the feature is, you don't stand a chance to find it.

Since I gave you the name, my work is done.
Bob

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re: sorry if I was unclear
Apr 6, 2009 5:19PM PDT

Bob
.."My job is done"...? What job is that, bob? You were on the money in your firt reply to me. You admitted "you aren't much of an answer man". Your further posts reinforce the extreme thrift you demonstrate at sharing any knowledge you may possess. Don't fool yourself into thinking you've helped, or take any confort in making fun of someone with a problem? "If you don't even know ... you haven't got a chance at finding it" is a different kind of help than I've gotten here in the past. Suggesting I find my answers elsewhere seems to conflict with the whole purpose of a computer help board. On top of that, the "elsewhere" wasn't a specific url that addresses the issue, but you suggest I google it. You call that pointing me in the right direction, well, I submit, "I am not impressed". No need to reply. You've already proven how useless your posts are, to me at least. My best thoughts are if you reply to any other posts, you can't be any less help than you were with me.
go fish bob,
billsmasher

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Back to you Bill.
Apr 7, 2009 2:30AM PDT

I read your post and can't find where you are helping others find the answers.

Instead I read your posts and you take people to task for helping people find the answers.

Why is that?
Bob

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Back to you Bill
Apr 12, 2009 9:31AM PDT

What? "To task"? *** does that mean?. My original post concerned seeking help. Where does seeking help involve offering help? Bob, I just wanted help in completing the gift of an mp3 player to a little boy. I bought the player, but couldn't load the thing with songs for the waiting tike. Shame on me. Looking for solutions from you, shame on you. Get it? Stop trying to explain your incompetance.
Move on, will ya?
billsmasher

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Remember that this is all volunteer.
Apr 12, 2009 11:46AM PDT

Just like the person who helps you change your flat tire they may not do the entire task for you.

-> To be sure I wanted to equip you with the right terms so you can go out and find out on your own what was going on.

Let me be perfectly clear I do this for a purpose. Its to help people learn to fish for the answers. But like fishing I help you get the right bait to attract the right fish (answers.)

If all I did was hand out fish then no one would learn how to fish.

-> If you want fish, please head to the stores and ask the plentiful sales folk for the answers. Or call up those support lines. Here I will continue to help people fish but if it angers some there I don't hand out fish then it's best they know if this was a fish market then it would not be free.
Bob

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"They show up as another hard drive".
Apr 6, 2009 5:29PM PDT

What exactly do you mean? Does it say "hard drive" or "harddrive", or maybe "disk' or "diskette"?

How did you transfer files to the Elements on the other machine and why didn't it work on your machine. Nothing easier than moving files to a hard drive, I'd say.

How does a non-player, standard USB thumbdrive show up in both your machine and the other machine?

Kees