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i wouldnt buy it at costco ...
I am assuming its kinda like the Best Buy scheme. They put a different model number on it ... like they do with furniture and bedding.
Being a CEDIA certified custom installer and retailer ... I can say that anything Pioneer makes to do with Plasma rocks.
I also will say with experience when huge retail chains use their muscle ...sometimes they force manufacturers to cheapen certain items to offer them cheaper. Walmart is famous for this.
So they might use a lower grade board ... or cheaper wire ..ect to cut costs as their buyer has demanded.
If you cant compare it to a large customer base ... i would stay away from it. In the end ..things like this only hurt the people like me that support the "real full throttled" products.
Some manufacturers will take certain models and change the feature list or leave out something like the tuner and change the model number and possibly the bezel color, etc. slighty to appease the B & M dealers who are upset becasue they are selling their product thru Costco. Then their dealers can tell customers that the Costco units are of lower quality.
I have a Panasonic DVD player which they did made two minor changes in and had a different model number. Denon has done the same thing with their receivers for years. Yamaha also does this with their receivers. Sony used to do it with their regular receivers and some of their ES line. Check Magnolia Audio/Video or similar up-scale dealer for a Yamaha receiver then go look at Video Only. If you look at the specs closely you will see the same receiver with a completely different series of numbers.
Costco did the same recently with a 42" and 50" model of the Panny plasma's. The Costco model has slighly different appearance and had no tuner. The rest of the unit is exactly the same.
Don't believe the the line that these units have inferior parts. It's is only the other dealers and people in the business like the poster above who are trying to head off Costco stealing their business. These custom installers do a great professional job for the many people that need their services, including installation and calibration, but they are not the place to buy the plasma from if you want a low price.
In fact, if Costco had any plasma that I was looking for I would most definitely buy it there becasue of their superb customer service.
I HATE YOU!!!!!!!!
naw, i'm just messing around. you are definitely correct. costco unfortunately is taking a lot of business away from our store cause they are within walking distance of us. unfortunately, the town our store is in is very diverse so a lot of customers come in shopping only by numbers, and wont listen to you cause they dont understand english.
for example...every tag they look at, they will only point at the price and resolution........which is VERY annoying cause they'll say maxent plasmas are btter then pioneers because of resolution..its the same thing with watts...and they wont listen to you cause they can't understand you. then they go to costco, sees a tv thats ALMOST the same but for much cheaper with free stands that we can NEVER pricematch 100%. we've lost so much business during the superbowl cause of this. costco is really killin us.
ALSO, THEIR RETURN POLICY .....
..... IS PROBABLY THE MOST RELAXED IN THE COUNTRY. I WOULD BUY A PLASMA FROM A GAS STAION IF I KNEW THEY WOULD RETURN IT A YEAR LATER.
Thank You BONSPEED, You Just Gave Me A Great Idea!
I worked for Texaco back in the 70's as a marketing rep. You have sparked the marketing genius in me! What do you think?.........
''Get a free brand new plasma TV when you buy 10,000 gallons of gasoline''
WITH HDMI ..........
........... DONT WANT TO UPSET THE HARDCORE TECH GUYS TOO MUCH.
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Masterying01, works at the BB in Skokie Il
hey bro .. i aint one of those dealers that makes a months salary off an item. im actually one of the honest people that answer all the questions people have about them ... how to hook them up ... how to change the channel or add different items ... and id even bring it to your home and hook it up ... something cosco doesnt do.
besides ..if a plasma is gonna burn up .. its gonna be within 90 days .. not a year. if the plasma has to be brought back in a year ..there was something wrong with it to begin with and it wasnt noticed because the cosco people didnt hook it up ... the buyer did. something a dealer would have noticed installing it. the year thing ... thats just jibberish.
believe it or not ..there is a purpose to "dealers." the almighty dollar doesnt always win. i can usually get within a couple hundred bucks of cosco with stuff ..but then again ...most manufacturers that supply "dealers" do not supply the same product to places like cosco.
im so sure of the 90 day statement with plasma i flat out refuse to sell people extended warranty on plasma. Pioneer is one of if not the best on the market.
you might ask how much does a 5060 cost delivered and installed by me or my co owner? 3900 installed + tax. you could beat that price on the web with no warranty but would add shipping ...so its a no brainer ...if they had it at cosco it would be about the same price.
no this isnt a scheme to advertise ... just a statement and a point.
you are correct
this panel is also not assembled in California as the other models are.
Anyone with a third grade education can read the owner's manual and hook up a plasma TV. I realize that some would rather hire someone like you to do it for them. That is fine. I have no objection to that.
However, don't tell us that Pioneer or any other manufacturers make two different plasmas, one with cheaper boards that they sell through Costco. This is simply not true, except for the changes as I mentioned above.
This is a very common marketing plan in many different industries. I recently attended an RV show. A saleswoman for Itasca (made by Winnebago) told me that Itasca was an upscale and higher quality model of the model made and sold as Winnebago. I doubted this and checked it out online later. These two motorhomes come off the same exact assembly line with exactly the same parts, except for aesthetic differences. One line tends to have more items as standard equipment but in the end the prices are basically the same.
These may seem like somewhat different situations. I only bring it up because they use the same BS as you, bro. Yes, there are many good reasons some people might prefer to buy from an upscale dealer, etc. Just don't spread the inferior model nonsense.
I've heard wallmart does this but I have not seen proof.
I've heard wallmart does something similar to sell various products at lower prices this but I have not seen proof.