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Pentagon weighs border deployment

by Mark5019 May 12, 2006 11:32AM PDT

CNN) -- The Pentagon has been asked to draw up options for deploying military personnel to help secure the border with Mexico, CNN has learned.

President Bush could announce a plan as soon as next week, and Pentagon sources told CNN on Friday that National Guard troops might be involved.

Bush is scheduled to speak on immigration and border security at 8 p.m. Monday in an Oval Office address. (Full story)

Pentagon sources told CNN that one idea under consideration is to deploy several thousand additional National Guard troops in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California. The troops would assist civilian authorities by providing logistics, intelligence and surveillance, and would remain under the control of the governors of those four states. (Watch what the National Guard may soon be doing -- 2:17)

The National Guard already is participating in such roles in small numbers.

works for me and should mine the area wont make the trip to invade

http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/05/12/border.defense/index.html

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Or maybe build a wall...
by Terry Browne May 12, 2006 2:41PM PDT

But oh. That would take a lot of illegal immigrants to build.

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Actually, a wall is under discussion, and a fence is already
by Kiddpeat May 12, 2006 3:14PM PDT

present in many places. No illegal immigrants have been needed to build such things.

Isn't the US a terrible place? We have to build barriers to keep people out rather than in.

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The NG is a great idea
by WOODS-HICK May 12, 2006 5:14PM PDT

bill o'reilly has been pushing this for years. He'll be smiling next week. The NG should be deployed in the US which used to be their primary mission when required.
we must not hire illegals in our own lives since this has driven wages down and encourages outsourcing.
employers have to be investigated and stop their 'it's the feds job to find them' attitude. our taxes give too much for corporate welfare.
a brick and mortar wall is probably unnecessary and impractical for the entire border. strategic checkpoints, unmanned aerial surveillance, etc. Adding enforcement of existing laws is sufficient. I was at the berlin wall in 1980, entered east berlin at checkpoint charlie and talked to several citizens who chose a different economic system. the wall made people enemies who should have been friends. the psychological barrier is higher and longer than we could build. what ice should be doing is reviewing the tapes of the recent demonstrations. track the illegals and let them spend more time with their families. don't neglect the non-hispanics. enforcement should apply to all. how do we get rid of millions of illegals? one at a time.

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make it non friendly for them
by Mark5019 May 12, 2006 9:56PM PDT

the companys that hire them lose there company the apts that rent to them lose property. people who hire them face fines.
only emergancy meds given.
if they cant live, work prosper here why will they stay?

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Lose them to who?
by Terry Browne May 12, 2006 11:34PM PDT

"the companys that hire them lose there company the apts that rent to them lose property."
Remember, to take what belongs to others is STEALING. If you don't believe me, do a search here.

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well if your a drug dealer
by Mark5019 May 13, 2006 12:38AM PDT

and get found in your car its forfieted to the gov.
so is that stealing? nope make it a law.
people who hire them, homes that rent to them are forfieted to the gov.
see how long people will help them stay.
if they lose there property for breaking the law.

of course your ok with the law arent you?

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well as long as its built
by Mark5019 May 12, 2006 9:53PM PDT

i dont care if its built by you to stop the invasion

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Or we could employ citizens who need the work
by dirtyrich May 15, 2006 6:37AM PDT

but nah, they don't matter.

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I personally have no problem with the deployment of US troop
by Ziks511 May 12, 2006 5:04PM PDT

s on the border, in fact, I think its a good idea.

I wonder if 2 barbed wire fences with a wet moat in between wouldn't make better sense than a wall. Less ugly for one thing, more transparent and therefore easier to see what's going on in Mexico The wet moat would collapse tunnels under the border unless they got into serious engineering, at which point their activity should be fairly obvious from the US side. There's probably enough communities along the border to funnel grey water, water used for washing up, laundry and hand washing, into a pipeline to soak the ground at the bottom of the Moat. It really only needs a foot of water or less standing in the Moat to make tunelling impossible, or at least very very unlikely.

See, that's how liberal I am.

Rob

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What?s Old Is New: New Signage New Checkpoints New Uniforms
by Catgic May 12, 2006 5:39PM PDT
?President Bush?to deploy several thousand additional National Guard troops in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California to secure the border with Mexico.?

The Pentagon plans to save money by reusing signage that was in storage and gathering dust in a U.S. Army warehouse.

http://www.nightowlcity.org/photo/germany/berlin/berlin_checkpoint_charlie2.jpg

The Pentagon has unveiled the design of new guard shacks that will be installed along U.S. ? Mexico Border as well as new uniforms that will be worn by the National Guard troops assigned to border security duty in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California.

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/archive/00225/Checkpoint_Charlie__225042c.jpg
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good find
by WOODS-HICK May 12, 2006 10:12PM PDT

deja vu for me. we can avoid the totalitarian aspect of the border. it should be 'user friendly' since we live in the 21st century

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Not the 1st time our military assisted the Border Patrol.
by John Robie May 13, 2006 1:24AM PDT

We had US Marines helping to guard against drug traffic, but not too long after a Marine killed an 18yr old Mexican American goat herder on the Big Bend Texas border, after being fired on in 1997, the Pentagon withdrew the Marines.

Hope this new batch of Nat. Guards are armed with live ammo & permission to defend themselves.

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BTW......
by John Robie May 13, 2006 1:41AM PDT

A civilian grand jury did not indict the Marine, who was with a 4 man surveillance team, returning a single M16 shot after receiving 2 rifle shots from the 18 yr old Esequiel Hernandez. It was reported that payments estimated to be up to $1.6 million was paid to the family.

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(NT) (NT) OORAH !
by WOODS-HICK May 13, 2006 1:41AM PDT
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The military's recent
by Dan McC May 15, 2006 5:45AM PDT

record of sealing borders is not encouraging.

Dan

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(NT) (NT) r u thinking of the sandbox?
by WOODS-HICK May 15, 2006 5:49AM PDT
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well when its here be different i hope
by Mark5019 May 15, 2006 5:53AM PDT

wall and mines work for me

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On another website I saw it opined...
by EdH May 15, 2006 6:26AM PDT

that the National Guard's mission would be to keep the Minutemen away.

We'll see.

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(NT) (NT) wasn't the NG fathered by the minutemen circa 1775+/-
by WOODS-HICK May 15, 2006 6:33AM PDT
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