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Pentagon on lockdown after shooting.

Mar 4, 2010 8:51AM PST

Breaking news.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588074,00.html
DEVELOPING: The Pentagon is on lockdown after someone opened fire outside a Metro station.

Three people were injured and taken to George Washington University Hospital's emergency room, officials said. Their condition was not immediately known.

The Metro entrance is yards away from the Pentagon, and it is not clear if the Pentagon's police were involved.

The Blue-Yellow line at the Pentagon station is closed.

No one is being allowed in or out of the Pentagon.

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RE: Go back to sleep.
Mar 5, 2010 5:34AM PST

That was me having the nap...And I thought you didn't read my posts.

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Response
Mar 5, 2010 5:32AM PST
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Interesting link.
Mar 5, 2010 5:43AM PST

Of course "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State (...) shall not be infringed."
I'm sure the free State of Arkansas will be fine.

Interesting to see that their first link is to "Guerilla warfare" by none other than Che Guevara. I don't hope they plan to follow his lessons.

Kees

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If written today
Mar 5, 2010 7:55AM PST

we'd do away hopefully with such phrasing and say simply,

"The people's right to keep and bear arms will not be infringed since armed citizens are necessary to insure the security of a free State, and when needed to form a well regulated Militia"

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Fine, but..
Mar 4, 2010 11:20PM PST

How is it a "problem"?

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Starbucks, the new OK corral
Mar 4, 2010 11:33PM PST

That's what liberals think when reading about this. Of course all the killing in Baltimore and DC of those unarmed by those bad citizens who are armed is just a need for yet more "gun" control, instead of citizens meeting criminals on equal terms and retaining right of self defense, protection of property, ad_infinitum.

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Remembering Joel Lee
Mar 5, 2010 2:08AM PST

Life, Death & Injustice in Baltimore. A gun might have helped him. Chances are it wouldn't in this instance, but then maybe someone would have already shot Davon during some other crime and then this murder never would have happened. We call play "what if" but this is a good example of bad guys carrying guns and what happens when the good guys don't too.
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http://www.city-journal.org/html/5_4_sndgs01.html

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Considering, Angeline...
Mar 5, 2010 1:49AM PST

Angeline, considering the number of states that now allow concealed carry permits, how do you know who is carrying one? Does your local McDonald's, or other burger restaurant that you prefer, have a sign saying no firearms? If not, did you ever ask the management if they forbid it?

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J, I have been "considering" it
Mar 5, 2010 2:17AM PST

....... for nearly 8 decades,.

Gun ownership did not used to be a political issue. it was an accepted fact that lots of people owned firearms. They were dispassionate about it. It was just a fact of life.

The rhetoric has reached a fever pitch. I am being sarcastic here, but it they seem more concerned about their guns being taken away than they are about their first-born being taken away.

I am a liar because I say I don't want to take your gun away. I should not feel safe unless there are armed civilians around me.

Frankly, I have never felt this uncomfortable about being in public places. One advantage of my age is that I can avoid those public paces easier than most. And I do and I will. Fortunately, my out of town visiting will be limited to Ar Force Bases. On those, personal firearms must be kept at an armory. The military police units are in charge of protection.

That is what suits me just fine.

Angeline

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Your situation is not same as all others
Mar 5, 2010 2:40AM PST

I think most who have the ability to live in your manner, just visit home and Air Base, wouldn't even bother to carry a gun on themselves at any point. Not everyone can avoid bad neighborhoods and bad situations. My father for one is 79 and sometimes does appraisals in areas that aren't necessarily safe. When he gets assigned a fee appraisal from FHA or VA, he can't turn back the ones where he'd rather not go. In those areas, he goes armed, usually openly. Not everyone has the same living or working situation, where some may be safer than others. It's not fair those who live in a relatively safe manner at all times should restrict those who don't from taking precautions to adequately or hopefully secure their own safety.

Personally I have no desire to carry a weapon like a gun around. Most times I wouldn't. It would depend on where I had to be or drive through, and even there a route can be designed to avoid the high crime areas.

Personally I'm glad police in this country are armed. I would feel safer if I knew there were a lot more out there willing to carry and hopefully for protecting not just themself, but others if the occassion should arise. To me it's inconceiveable that ex-military, retired military or police, and others trained in firearms suddenly shouldn't be carrying a personal firearm around just because they are no longer in that area of work. Did they suddenly become untrustworthy by leaving the police or military? No.

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Sorry, Angeline...
Mar 5, 2010 2:40AM PST

Sorry, Angeline, I can't put much weight on claims that some unknown person called you a liar or said "I should not feel safe unless there are armed civilians around me.". You feel how you feel, but you seem to make statements about how others feel, including unnamed ones.

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Pentagon shooter's parents warned authorities
Mar 5, 2010 5:08AM PST
http://www.nypost.com/p/news/national/pentagon_shooter_linked_to_anti_QbNraPH2l44hBSH2aYvaKM

HOLLISTER, Calif. ? The parents of the man who opened fire in front of the Pentagon yesterday had warned authorities their son was upset and might have a gun, officials said this afternoon.

San Benito County Sheriff Curtis Hill said the parents of John Patrick Bedell filed a missing persons report and were worried about his mental stability.

After reading an e-mail from their son to an acquaintance, the parents told deputies they were worried that he had purchased a gun.
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May I read your post as saying ...
Mar 5, 2010 5:15AM PST

you support the notion that anybody in certain mental conditions should lose his constitutional right to carry arms? That's certainly an interesting interpretation of the Bill of Rights.

If not that, what else did you mean to say?

Kees

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Hellllloooooo....
Mar 5, 2010 5:33AM PST

I reported a news story, nothing more. No need to fabricate a hidden message. With all due respect, I think you may be beyond your depth.

Do we even know the guy purchased his guns legally? I doubt it.

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That's another interpretation ...
Mar 5, 2010 5:36AM PST

of the Bill of Rights, it seems: you only may carry arms you bought legally. I don't read that in "the right of the People to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Kees

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I do not advocate breaking the laws.
Mar 5, 2010 5:44AM PST

I don't think you really have the understanding to comment on the Bill of Rights.

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Since your knowledge of American histroy is as
Mar 5, 2010 6:20AM PST

at least as poor as your knowledge of constitutional rights, I'll help you.

Yes, mentally ill people can be legally barred from possessing firearms(rules vary by state)

You're welcome.

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Thanks. That's a clear answer.
Mar 5, 2010 6:55AM PST

And I think such rules make sense.

Kees