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Pentagon on lockdown after shooting.

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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,588074,00.html
DEVELOPING: The Pentagon is on lockdown after someone opened fire outside a Metro station.

Three people were injured and taken to George Washington University Hospital's emergency room, officials said. Their condition was not immediately known.

The Metro entrance is yards away from the Pentagon, and it is not clear if the Pentagon's police were involved.

The Blue-Yellow line at the Pentagon station is closed.

No one is being allowed in or out of the Pentagon.

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In reply to: Pentagon on lockdown after shooting.

amok...
not a terrorist... they do other ... stuff.. oO

hard times for americans.

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Re: arms

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Americans have a constitutional rights to CARRY a firearm (even into Starbucks, if they want so).

But it seems they aren't totally free to USE it, so probably the most important role is to show you're a real American man, not a softie loony left. What are the limitations on USING the things you are allowed to CARRY?

Kees

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Well, shooting police officers at random is frowned on...

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I assume it was NOT a serious question.

Apparently the guy was one of those 9/11 "Truthers".

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How can you say that?

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He seems to be simpatico with some members here.

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anti-GOVERNMENT loon?

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lots of them around

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It's odd...

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That within a short period his Amazaon profile is available. maybe, there's more to it. You would think that his profile is not public info, though I regret that I don't do much Amazon purchases other than look from time to time. -----Willy Happy

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It's that darn internet thing.

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He has a right to have a gun, same as you.

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he just doesn't see the same enemies as you do.

And he's armed.

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Apparently the guy was one of those 9/11 "Truthers".

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Correct

Bedell was fascinated with conspiracy theories,

ALSO computer programming, libertarian economics and the science of warfare.

What any of this has to do with going out and shooting people, I don't know, Since many people believe/have interests in all of these things and they don't go around shooting people.

He had Mental problems AND a gun...That's all

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Why is it so difficult...

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for some people to make a distinction between carrying a gun and using it to shoot innocent people? Do you drive a car? How often do you drive into a crowd of people, running them down?

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Oh yes, because a gun has so many other uses....

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....besides shooting at things.

A car is not designed to kill. A gun is.

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Not exactly true...

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And it is irrelevant anyway. ONE of a gun's purposes is self defense. Very often it fulfills that purpose without being fired at all.

It amazes me that people cannot tell the difference between law abiding citizens and criminals.

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And a car can fulfill its purpose without being driven

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For example if it's an antique and is taken to car shows to be displayed.

The primary purpose when USING a car is to drive it. The primary purpose when USING a gun is to shoot things.

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and the primary purpose of a bat is....

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....to hit things, preferably a baseball. So what? You can kill someone with a baseball bat, both innocent and guilty (deserving). Do you object to homeowners having a baseball bat by their bed? Will they only meat home invaders who also carry baseball bats? Hey, maybe everyone can just use foam noodles, like the bad guys are supposed to?

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I disagree

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A gun CAN and often DOES fulfill its purpose without ever being fired.

And again, that is irrelevant. Change it to knife and maybe you'll see what I mean.

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In this particular case....

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...it may not have made much difference since the guy was so close to the guards. But in general a gun can be used to kill from a distance where a knife cannot.

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so what?

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If it can do what it's designed to do, then great. That's why it's carried. One will carry no matter what the law in order to use improperly, another will carry according to law to use when needed and proper. What would the fate of both the guards and the shooter been if only the shooter had been armed? The guards would have been dead and the shooter gone on to shoot others or to escape. Seems to me that swift justice was accomplished. Sure saves us court costs, legal associated defense costs, incarceration costs, and any fools that might have shown up demonstrating in his favor. Over, done with, he's gone, thank God and Guns.

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Under what scenario....

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....would Pentagon guards not be armed?

If this wacko had not been armed, those two guards would be on duty today instead of recovering from gunshot wounds. Luckily the guy was a lousy shot or they'd both be dead.

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well then,

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someone should have told him he wasn't supposed to be armed. I bet that would do the trick.

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Or....

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....being that he had a documented history of mental illness and a police record, he could have been denied a permit.

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If this wacko had not been armed..

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But he WAS. And he could have been armed with a knife or a machete or a club, or any number of other weapons. So what? If someone is determined to commit mayhem, he will do it.

The gun is not the important part. The person is.

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But it's a lot easier to commit certain kinds of mayhem....

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No, but did he purchase it legally?

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Not that anyone can stop someone from getting a gun if he really wants one.

What's your point, make all guns illegal?

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I don't know whether he got it legally or not

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But if he did, despite documented mental illness and a police record, do you see that as a problem?

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Possibly...

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but a far bigger problem is that he drove across the country and started shooting people.I think that's just a wee bit more important.

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Our rights aren't abridged by every nut...

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...who may abuse them. It's a specious question or argument.

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Josh, you could say...

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Josh, you said "A car is not designed to kill. A gun is.". You could say the same thing about a bow and arrow. That old "talking point" is getting stale.

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RE: A car is not designed to kill.

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The "civilian" with a gun grazed his targets,

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in other words he missed.

Is that the kind of person with a gun that you want coming to your rescue?

You could end up dead instead of the perp.

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