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pc wont start unless ram is taken out

I just built a new pc around my old 1050 ti. whenever i try to boot it, it wont. and when i take out the ram it boots but shows nothing and the gpu's fans wont work.

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check settings in BIOS

make sure they aren't overclocked. Also try one stick of RAM at a time. Maybe one has gone bad.

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that wont work

1. I cant do that the screen is black nothing changes there. 2. i only have 1 stick of ram for use. my brother has second one, that wont work aswell

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sounds like you have incorrect RAM

Did it EVER work in this computer? You can check at crucial to see what RAM your computer needs.

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it never has worked

my motherboards manual says that ddr4 1866/2133/2400/2667(oc)/2933(o/3200(oc)+ is supported. i have ddr4 2400 and my brother has 2133 mhz

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but this RAM works OK in brother's c0mputer?

You said when it "boots" it shows nothing. Not even a BIOS screen? If that's the case, since you built it, check the CPU for bent pins or bent pins in the socket if an Intel based motherboard.

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Yes it does

Both of the sticks work fine and dandy in his pc. And about the monitor, yes it doesnt even register theres a source there.

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that's a clear indication

there's either a problem with the CPU, or how it's been installed. Make sure you have it installed correctly and nothing on it or socket is bent. Check for any thermal paste that may be under it, shorting something out.

Then check all your screws on the motherboard to make sure they all belong in it, that none are in an incorrect hole shorting to the case.

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how can i check for the cpu bends?

the cpu is firmly there and it doesnt sound like wanting to come off

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(NT) didn't you install the CPU? and the HSF on top of it?
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Im using a stock cooler

The thermal paste was already on the cooler and i think its stuck on the cpu (im new to this crap)

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typically

there's a catch to release the HSF from the CPU, and then a ZIF lever to free the CPU from the socket. You didn't install the CPU yourself? It same already on the motherboard? Was it new, or used motherboard?

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both the cpu and the mobo

are new and i myself installed them.

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progress i guess

i fixed the problem with the ram and it powers up with ram now but still no picture on my display and my gpu fan is as always: turns on then slowly slows down until stops

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Onboard video available?

If so, then remove the GPU and see if the onboard video will work. Be sure it's selected in the BIOS.

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can I remind you that

i cant access the bios because it wont show signal on any monitor (ive tried 3)

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do you understand what...

..."onboard video" means? Is there another video port you can find that is not on your discrete video card, but part of the motherboard itself? It will not be where the card slots are on the back, but near the USB ports probably.

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oh that thing

yes i have, it didnt work and i have no idea what to do

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well, right now

I'm thinking you have a dead CPU, or a fried motherboard. It could be the PSU failed but not completely, enough to run fans, but it's a good brand and large enough. I had a Logisys PSU, a piece of crap that would light up the motherboard and fans, but failed to boot and it was because it had failed and couldn't even supply 100w power anymore.

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both are unlikely

i just recieved them today

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you will have to follow up

...on what Rob wants you to do, which is get to the bare basics and build up from there. Piece of cardboard, motherboard on it, with nothing plugged into it's ports or slots other than the PSU and the onboard video port to monitor. Short across the power pins to try and start it.

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ok, do i need the cpu or...

because i face difficulties when trying to remove the cpu

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doesn't matter

Because if then it won't get to BIOS, then it's either the CPU or motherboard that's the problem.

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so i should try

only the cpu, mobo and the psu?

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(NT) and no other connectors/pins to the motherboard exept the 24
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Yes

then next test with a stick of RAM. What you are wanting is a BIOS screen seen.

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Let's hear more about this NEW PC BUILD.

It is not booting. In the world of building a PC, a boot would show a bios or other screen. You are only getting to a "power up." Which is only useful in many console games (smile.)

OK, there are so many reasons for a no boot PC. I usually find it's a jumper on the CMOS CLEAR, missing or dead CMOS battery and the list goes on and on with incompatible CPU, RAM, too many standoffs for motherboard and more.

What I do? I don't install any part I don't need. I don't need drives and on some machines don't need the GPU. If it still doesn't show the BIOS after the usual checks, the motherboard is pulled out onto cardboard with PSU and one stick of RAM and tested. If that fails I'm looking at the possible bad or incompatible parts.

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