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pc turns of 10 seconds into booting up

by robgigs / February 16, 2011 7:01 AM PST

here is my problem, when i turn my acer aspire m1610 off at night, then turn back on in the morning it starts to boot up then switches of, i cant turn it back on by the power button unless i unplug it, after between 10 and 20 times of doing this it boots and runs fine all day,no problems at all. i can restart it and everything is good, then when i turn it off for about 8 hours its the same problem,ive tried start up repair and it cant find any problems,although i tried to do a complete restore and it cant find any backups, ive got an intel dual core e2140 cpu, 2.5 gigs ram and windows vista home basic, also nvidea 9400 grafics card, had the pc for about 2and a half years with no problems,im wondering if its the psu or motherboard, any help would be much appreciated as im just leaving it running all the time now as i dont want to keep turning the power on and off as this cant be good for it, thanks for any help anyone can give me.

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If you research BAD CAPS
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 16, 2011 8:17 AM PST

You find this is a known symptom. Sadly few shops replace laptop caps.

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not relevant
by robgigs / February 16, 2011 6:03 PM PST

thanks for your help but my pc is a desktop not a laptop

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That makes the prospect much better.
by Kees_B Forum moderator / February 16, 2011 6:10 PM PST
In reply to: not relevant

Replace the bad caps or have it done by a competent repair shop.

Kees

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dont understand answer
by robgigs / February 16, 2011 6:22 PM PST

what are the caps then, i thought this was a power issue, but maybe im just dumb

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Bad Caps
by MarkFlax Forum moderator / February 16, 2011 6:28 PM PST
In reply to: dont understand answer
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sorry my mistake
by robgigs / February 16, 2011 6:31 PM PST

it could be the capasitors im gonna check in a bit

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checked caps
by robgigs / February 16, 2011 7:00 PM PST
In reply to: sorry my mistake

just checked all the caps on the pc, there does not seem to be any bulging or leaking caps, and the pc runs fine all day, no sudden shut downs or software errors, the problem only occurs when the pc is tutned off for more than 3 hours,i would think if it was the caps it would have some signs during the day, but nothing. its really got me this problem,as i can leave the pc running for days without any problems.

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The sign is clear.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / February 17, 2011 12:39 AM PST
In reply to: checked caps

Not all bad caps will have a visible sign. It's also possible to get this symptom on older PCs because Electrolytic Caps do wear out. This symptom can confound those outside of PC repair circles. But it is a well known sign.

I'd be duplicating the internet if I wrote the way this cap ages and works (or not) as it gets old.

You can try a new bigger power supply and if that does not cure it, a new motherboard.
Bob

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Might well be the power supply since ...
by Edward ODaniel / February 17, 2011 1:31 AM PST
In reply to: checked caps

one weak area that has often caused power supply failures is the BAD CAPS issue.

The capacitors used in power supplies include larger-value capacitors used in the filtering steps, where the 110 VAC input voltage is stepped down and filtered. These capacitors often include electrolytic capacitors that are sometimes given to leakage or even bursting.

Since these are inside the PSU case they are difficult to examine (and examining them can be dangerous as they are larger value and the residual energy they contain can be rather shocking - not damaging in itself but the sliced fingers from rapid movement of appendage across sharp metal edges is indeed annoying.

Try a new PSU.

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thanks
by robgigs / February 17, 2011 4:46 AM PST

i will give it a try when i can get a new psu, until then i will just leave it running,as it seems ok ,its not over heating and the psu is not warm,one other thing it seems to power off even when i leave it in sleep mode over night, dont know if that is relevant, im pretty sure that when the pc is in sleep mode it shuts down the hard drive, so could it be a bad hard drive.

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