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P4 3.4GHz, 2GB Ram, SCSI & still slow

by RajSaraf / December 31, 2004 8:17 PM PST

I recently built this system with above basic configuration & is definitely substantially slower than my another older system that is P4 2.0GHz, 1GB RAM, IDE. I need help in figuring out why so. I am willing to provide as much info as needed about this new machine, just let me know what info & how to gather it.

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Which SCSI?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / December 31, 2004 10:22 PM PST

You have to go way up in the SCSI hierarchy ($$$) to get hard disk speed comparable to cheap IDE drives. Some thing SCSI=SPEED, but they learn someday.

In closing, nothing in your post about how the OS was installed. My bet is they used just the Microsoft CD and forgot some drivers.

Bob

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Adaptec SCSI card, IBM 73 Ultra, and...
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 5:09 AM PST
In reply to: Which SCSI?

I had installed the OS myself. I also installed SCSI drivers (Win2000 setup will not recognize HDD unless SCSI drivers are loaded). Device Manager is also not giving any error messages (is there any other way to check if all needed drivers are installed properly?).

By the way, I have 2 SCSI (IBM) 10000rpm 73GB each, 2 SATA (Maxtor) 120GB each & 1 IDE (Samsung) 20GB HDDs.

I highly appreciate your help.

Raj

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Can't see it yet.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 1, 2005 5:22 AM PST

Your post was imcomplete. Not a word about the SCSI interface make/models.

As it stands, my bet is you should pester the machine supplier to fix it.

Bob

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Adaptec ASC-29320A Host RAID Driver, Intel D925XECV2
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 9:08 AM PST
In reply to: Can't see it yet.

SCSI and RAID Controller is Adaptec ASC-29320A Host RAID Driver.

The Motherboard is Intel D925XECV2. All the needed drivers are installed to my guess, including drivers for on-board LAN, Audio, Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility & Intel Application Accelerator RAID-Edition. There are no errors showing in Device Manager.

The Video is PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT (PCI Express) 128MB DDR3-1GHz.

I highly appreciate your help.

Raj

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(NT) (NT) Motherboard Make/model --->Drivers installed
by null. / January 1, 2005 5:10 AM PST
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Intel D925XECV2, Adaptec ASC-29320A Host RAID Driver
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 9:03 AM PST

All the needed drivers are installed to my guess, including drivers for on-board LAN, Audio, Intel Chipset Software Installation Utility & Intel Application Accelerator RAID-Edition. There are no errors showing in Device Manager.

The Video is PNY Verto GeForce 6600GT (PCI Express) 128MB DDR3-1GHz.

SCSI and RAID Controller is Adaptec ASC-29320A Host RAID Driver.

I highly appreciate your help.

Raj

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Ultra320 or the other connector.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 1, 2005 9:07 AM PST

Let me be blunt and ask why you are doling out the information.

Why not supply all the needed information in one post so I don't have to work hard.

Why? I will not work hard for you!

Bob

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It is Ultra320, sorry for being so novice
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 9:15 AM PST

Sorry brother for being so novice. I am willing to provide ALL the info, especially to somebody that is trying to help me.

To my knowledge, it is Ultra320. Where I should look in my computer to confirm this?

Raj

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Again, missing information.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 1, 2005 9:21 AM PST

I could have determined the Ultra320 answer IF you had told the make/model of the SCSI drives.

But you have yet to give a good parts list.

I don't want to sound harsh or such, but it does matter since the transfer rate can be "it". After we see the drive make/model, tell about what SCSI BIOS settings you used. Adaptec allows one to reduce the SCSI speed due to cable issues and more. I'm not there to look for you, so you have to know this.

Bob

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IBM IC35L073UWDY10-0 SCSI
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 9:54 AM PST

I wish I knew what info/parts list was needed & that how I can pick that info from my computer.

SCSI BIOS was defaulted at 320 & not changed.

Thank you again for looking into this for me.

Raj

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Ok, the system looks to have all the right stuff.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 1, 2005 10:18 AM PST

Now a short checklist.

1. Does task manager show dual CPUs like it should for HT CPUs?
2. Is the boot up screen showing the DUAL CHANNEL 800MHz operational? I do not have your system so you have to get this working, or it will seem slow.
3. Windows 2000 is SP4 with all critical patches.
4. NO SPYWARE!

Bob

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Check List Results
by RajSaraf / January 1, 2005 4:54 PM PST

1. Yes, task manager shows 2 boxes for CPU Usage History.
2. I couldn't understand bootup screen. However, I entered the bios setup. It shows System Bus Speed 800MHz, System Memory Speed 400MHz, L2 Cache RAM 1MB, Total Memory 2048MB, Memory Mode Dual Channel.
3. Yes, Windows 2000 is SP4 & all critical patches installed.
4. I ran SpySweeper & deleted all Cookies that it found except SmartTags & Gator. SpySweeper is not setup to continously run, I run it only when desired.

In the Task Manager, I noticed that System Idle Process is mostly showing above 95 in CPU heading.

I also noticed that my computer is taking forever to log off. Booting up is not "forever" but still takes longer than my another computer with less RAM & slower processor.

For virus protection, I am always running ZoneAlarm Security Suite (including ZoneAlarm firewall).

Your help is highly appreciated. I wish I also could help someone as you are doing.

Raj

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Gator?
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 1, 2005 9:14 PM PST
In reply to: Check List Results

Gator is spyware and as you have spyware, I must end this discussion now. I can't help you.

As to long boot times, this is normal for SCSI systems. Your complaint was not specific about that but some do complain about how SCSI has to scan the bus on boot. I have no cure for that.

In closing, you write "For virus protection, I am always running ZoneAlarm Security Suite" which is not an accepted antivirus. If this was my machine I'd run Housecall (see google.com) to see if a pest is installed.

Sorry to read you are keeping the spyware.

Bob

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this directed at both
by kjmossberg / January 2, 2005 2:33 AM PST
In reply to: Gator?

if this is a new system running win 2k(SP4)
ALL GATOR PRODUCTS NEEDS TO BE REMOVED!
that should help the boot time....
KJ
kjmossberg@earthlink.net

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kjmossberg@earthlink.net , you get SPAM!
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 2, 2005 2:39 AM PST
In reply to: this directed at both

By posting your email in the clear, the email robots will pick it up and use it.

I can delete your post if you ask.

If you do want members to email you, put it in your profile so you get a shield so it doesn't show.

Bob

PS. Yes, the gator gotta go. I can't help those that keep spyware on a machine.

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i am just an uninformed novice
by RajSaraf / January 2, 2005 8:46 AM PST
In reply to: Gator?

You should realize that most users of forums here are uninformed novices seeking help from pros. If I knew that Gator was really bad or could figure out problem myself, why I would have been here seeking help?

Anyways, I have got rid of Gator. Also ran Housecall & no pests were found. The shut down speed has got better (still not as fast) after I unchecked "Write Cache Enabled" & disabled "Tagged Queuing" & "Synchronous Transfers".

Although I have got rid of Gator from all of my machines, I must mention that I have always used it & never had any problems because of it, including on Win2K SP4 machines. Norton or ZoneAlarms will easily prevent Gator ads.

I bought ZoneAlarm after reading editor's review in CNET site, giving it a rating of 8.3, as good as for PC Cillin.

By the way, I found out that CNET.com had placed Com.com cookie in my computer without my knowledge. However, since I trust & respect CNET, I am not deleting this cookie from my system.

Anyways, I am very thankful to you for your efforts to help me out.

Raj

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Do a recap post about what the issues are.
by R. Proffitt Forum moderator / January 2, 2005 9:00 AM PST

"Slow" isn't enough detail. I do expect this system to boot more slowly than a non-SCSI system. This may be new to SCSI first timers. There is no cure.

As to me being intolerent of SPYWARE, that's my choice. I will not allows such in any form. I also can't help people who leave such on their system.

To make matters worse, recent spyware invasions via Internet Explorer and Outlook Express are becoming (both) more virulent and harder to detect.

1. Now that you've tossed Gator, please feel free to re-cap what the issue is in detail (boot time, long launch time, etc.) and to give me a chance to spot the spyware, post your HIJACKTHIS log after a reboot.

2. If you use IE/OE then you are setting yourself up for issues. Try to avoid those.

Bob

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