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"our" new pitbull puppy

Nov 10, 2013 6:51PM PST

My daughter who is a US Marine sergeant visited with her new dog, a 3-4 month old female pit bull. Unfortunately I have the dog for the next week to deal with until she's back to pick it up. I was expecting the worst but thankfully the dog hasn't met those expectations. After a row with the cats, she's learned to respect their space. She plays a bit too hard with our shy sheltie though. I've heard a lot of bad about these dogs. Are they unpredictable when older, or with training can they be a good family dog? So far she's shown no aggressiveness other than puppy play, seems quite loving in fact.

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They're wonderful dogs and can be excellent family pets,
Nov 10, 2013 7:20PM PST
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that's good to hear
Nov 10, 2013 8:04PM PST

Our sheltie is larger, size of a collie, but like all herding dogs, more a nipper than a biter. The pitbull plays like trying to take down a wild hog, jumping on and grabbing back of the neck, or side of the neck. Stubborn too, have to whack it a good one for that with the stick to stop it. I don't like using a stick but just pushing the dog away at such time isn't always sufficient. I've had a bull mastiff before and that was a great dog, but very even tempered and not so stubborn. This one needs to wear off some energy in the mornings before it settles down, then it's OK for the most part. I'd have preferred my daughter NOT to have gotten a pitbull. I'm worried about when it's older and she wants to drop it off here for a week or so. I don't want to be responsible for it then, especially in a legal sense.

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never had one, but known a couple very friendly
Nov 10, 2013 8:00PM PST

As said, IMO it's more about how they're raised.

The unfortunate fact is some lines have been bred for aggression and/or territorial instincts to protect. That's make them more likely than some to turn aggressive.

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We had one (female)
Nov 10, 2013 8:32PM PST

from puppy till she passed away from old age at 14. She was raised with kids and other dogs and cats here and never showed aggression ever, but she sure intimidated people who came and wouldn't get out of their cars when she was sitting on the steps watching them pull in the drive. Once they got out, she was very friendly and licked their hands. Just looking for more friends. They would all say that she looked like she was thinking "Yeah, right...just try getting out of that car", so they didn't and waited for one of us to tell them it was okay. LOL

When she was young, she would take my shoes (nobody else's) and pile them all up in the middle of the livingroom and then sleep on them. I was her 'trainer' but she was most affectionate with Paul (the ex who took her when we split up...he wouldn't let me keep her but I sure wanted to). When she was bad, I would point my finger and tell her she was going to get a big 'f.g' whipp'n and she would immediately go belly down on the floor and sniper crawl to me for forgiveness.....once she somehow slid the ribbon out of one of my slippers while it was in her pile of shoes. I asked her what she did with my 'f.g' ribbon and she immediately belly crawled to me.....I guess whipp'n and ribbon sounded the same to her. I hugged her like crazy while I laughed until I had tears. She was a real honey.

Use a flyswatter instead of a stick.......It stings because pit bulls are shorthaired....and it's a lesson learned fast. Once you pick up the flyswatter after that, he'll immediately settle down without your ever having to use it after once or twice. They are extremely smart dogs and learn faster than lightning. Very good dogs to be around if you love them openly and often.

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I hope this will be a good one then
Nov 10, 2013 8:47PM PST

I don't want to do anything to encourage aggressive behavior, but seems you really have to force the attention at times. She seems OK with the cats after their understanding was reached. Only time will tell for sure. Sometimes you can do everything right and still have something go wrong. When my two older were preschool we had a rotty-shepard mix that most times seemed great, but we think it killed the cat, one neighbor claimed he was petting it over the fence as normal and it suddenly tried to grab him vicious like. Finally was sitting in living room with 8yr old girl visiting our two, a child the dog played with in backyard from puppy, and suddenly the dog with no provocation jumped up and attacked her back of the head. Stitches that day for the child and I had the dog put down immediately. After that I wanted ONLY sedate breed. We had a great Amish collie mix for 15 years and this sheltie now for about 7 years.

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That's the bad press you read...
Nov 11, 2013 12:48AM PST

A decent dog by many in the know, they are lovable. While there are various pit breeds, most expect the worse, because the worse was trained or drawn out. It is a protective cuss and will do all it has to do so. They will startle owners when for the most part have been OK, it's just a bit of their nature to clamp down if they aren't treated well. I'm sure that's the same for any breed of dog. It's sad to see how some of these dogs get that way, a warm-bloodied weapon. -----Willy Happy

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James
Nov 11, 2013 5:31AM PST

They are beautiful family dogs! Only animals that are vicious have been made that way. My oldest girl has had two pitbulls and they were lovable!

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thanks everyone for the info
Nov 11, 2013 6:33AM PST

Tony, wasn't that rascals' dog a bull terrier?

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Take a peek
Nov 11, 2013 6:39AM PST

and enjoy ->http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6vwl1amjPk

OK just to clear a few things up,...petey was a pit bull,...the American Staffordshire Terrier and American Pit Bull Terrier at the time of this film were one and the same breed...except the UKC recognized the breed as American Pit Bull Terrier and the AKC recognized it as American Staffordshire Terrier as a matter if fact in the twenty's and thirty's there where many duel registered dogs...petey was one of them,..also the dog used in 1994 was an American Bulldog .... <<--This info was a little farther down the page....Digger

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I might have
Nov 11, 2013 8:24AM PST
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Info on "Petey" from Cesar Millan..
Nov 11, 2013 7:44AM PST
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the fat kid outlived the others
Nov 11, 2013 8:22AM PST
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Use caution.
Nov 12, 2013 6:03AM PST
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terrible
Nov 12, 2013 7:25AM PST

I wonder if she had it from puppy, or got it already grown?

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I can't imagine
Nov 12, 2013 10:47AM PST

a pit acting this way unless it was mistreated. Would you expect the woman to admit it had been either used for dog fights or trained as a guard dog? I wouldn't believe her.

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(NT) any breed has bad apples too
Nov 12, 2013 7:33PM PST
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It's gone back home now
Nov 12, 2013 10:01PM PST

Glad I am too. Last night our collie sheltie had finally gotten enough of the rough play and was trying to attack it, although the puppy seemed to misunderstand that as the older dog finally playing the way it wanted. Peace again in the house among our dog and the cats. One cat had made it her special duty to stalk puppy and dare him, the others tended to try and avoid him.

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recently near here, two pits mauled a labadour
Nov 12, 2013 7:34PM PST

in the wounded dogs yard.

If I recall correctly, police shot one on the spot because it would not back off, the other was captured. Not sure if they put it down later or not. Never heard they identified the owner.

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Pit Bulls
Nov 12, 2013 7:53PM PST

are no different than any other animal. They can just go nuts like a human animal or an elephant. Don't trust any animal...unless your'e gonna eat it, leave it be....Digger

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I wouldn't go that far
Nov 13, 2013 8:25AM PST

that says a plow horse is no different from a Kentucky derby contender.

Breeding over generations do slant animals toward certain traits.

Dogs bred for territorial defense or attack on command even if not for dog fighting well probably be a bit quicker on the trigger as a breed, while individuals still cover a wide range.

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A Horse Is A Horse
Nov 13, 2013 8:36AM PST

Of Course Of Course..... Devil Ask Mr. Ed.... Grin .... I had to say it ! .....Digger

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Stop horsing around.
Nov 13, 2013 8:45AM PST

Dafydd.

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Now.... The rest of the story
Nov 13, 2013 8:54AM PST

My uncle breeds Arabians and sells them as racers , they all don't make it, some are just rotten mean animals and can't be trained and some are lovable as kittens. On the other hand G'pa and dad and uncle ( same uncle) had plow horses on the farm and some of those were mean rotten animals and some were lovable as can be. They like you one minute and not the next and can turn on you in an instant. I don't see a difference between plow horses and Kentucky Derby breeds... A horse is a horse...Digger

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james, one of the bad pit bull stories
Nov 13, 2013 8:36AM PST
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there are other dogs
Nov 13, 2013 9:17AM PST

I believe which would be good family and guard dog combo without risking a pitbull, like boxers or bull mastiffs. You're preaching to the choir here, I'd not have one just to be on the safer side. I wish my daughter hadn't gotten it, but who knows, maybe it will save her instead at some point from a bad person. Part of the problem is also the public perception in any court room setting. "That your honor is when the "pitbull" dog attacked...." and almost immediately you would be on the defense more than "that your honor is when the shih-tzu attacked".

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true about perception, dobermens use to have that rep
Nov 13, 2013 10:24AM PST

until pit bulls took the role of big bad evil misfits. That was due t a lot of them were bred and trained for dog fighting I suspect.