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opinions on 7.1 speaker sets only PLEASE

Oct 29, 2006 10:39AM PST

(questions in 3rd part if u dont want to read the lead up.)

Hello everyone, I am in the process of getting all of the stuff I need for my girlfriend and my first appartment. I am buying everything spaced out and early so I have everything I want and dont have to take it out on credit or anything, basically Im trying to get good things so later when I have to worry about bills I dont have to want something and not afford it.

Im a huge electronics addict and always want the new best things that come out, within reason. I am setting up my my entertainment electronics now. I have an xbox 360 and am getting the HD-DVD addon to play on my new 42" 1080p montior. Ive got HD cable with an HD-DVR and my laptop hooked up displaying at 1920x1080 on the tv. So basically I have all the video things I want (until a white ps3 comes out so I can have my bluray player =).)

I am now looking into audio and its kind of the last thing on my mind because of all the other stuff I still need to get so I am looking for cheap but quality. I am pretty set on the Sony STR-DG800 for my receiver since its cheap for being 7.1 and has HDMI passthrough and plenty to plug in. But I am having problems finding some good priced 7.1 speaker sets to get with it.

I seem to only find a few 5.1 sets, and then a bunch of single speakers or 2 speakers and a sub. For the speakers I am not looking into spending more than 2-300, it just isnt a huge concern for me. Maybe I am looking in the wrong place but it always seems there are tons of home theater systems that come with speakers but can never find those speakers seperate. Are there any? or do I need to find a good deal on one of those theater sets and just use the speakers?

Any help would be greatly appreciated, just tying to start the rest of my life here and want to start it with a bang, so thanks.

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If 2-300 means Dollars.....
Oct 29, 2006 12:05PM PST

...you should be posting in the toys forum. Happy

Sorry, no offense intended here, but you cannot get anything that even comes close to the word quality with 7 speakers and a sub for that range or even several times times that range.

I'm surprised you didn't say you wanted the 7.1 system to include large floor standing speakers with dual 10'' woofers and a sub with a 15'' driver all for $300.

The reason you can't find anything under the word quality in this range is that it doesn't exist.

You are chasing numbers here. You will find lots more 7.1 systems in cheap HTIB systems running about $500 or more than in more expensive quality systems. Forget the 7.1 thing and learn what really makes a surround speaker system sound decent.

You got hooked on the 7.1 term and presumed that all 7.1 systems must be better than 5.1 systems, not true (if all things were equal in the speaker's quality wise and you had the room for the extra 2 speakers then fine). So now you will ask why do most of the better receivers have 7 amps. That is for when and if you want to upgrade. You will probably find that 95% of all quality home theater systems over a starting price of about $1000 or more are 5.1 with 7.1 capable receivers.

You could have bought an entry level surround 5.1 or 6.1 receiver and maybe saved a few bucks. In your price range don't get caught up in chasing numbers and the ''latest'' like 1080p, HDMI. 7.1, upconverting, etc. I know you already have a lot of what I just listed. Now you are trying to cut corners on the sound which is 50% of the fun. Save until you can buy some decent speaker.

Suggest you either wait until you have more money for an entry level 5.1 speaker system of reasonable quality which would run at $500-$600 at the very least or start with two decent speakers and then add the center and two surrounds speakers that are an exact match (from the same brand and series of speakers that have the same identical tweeter) Then add a powered sub as you can afford it. Only last and if you have the money then you can add a 6th and 7th speakers. My advice is to forget the 6th and 7th speakers and put that money instead into better 5.1 speakers.

It is the quality of the speakers and not whether you have 5.1 or 7.1 that is important.

RR6

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yeah...
Oct 29, 2006 12:46PM PST

thank you for your post, after rereading through my rambling there I missed that point in which I meant to add. I would be fine with 5.1

To kind of give the idea of what I am fine with and am used to... My family has a Yamaha HTR-5550 receiver with 5.1 nx-c220 speakers. They are about four years old and I cant even find any info on the net about the speakers, and we will crank it up during a movie and it sounds awesome I am sure to cnet standards they probably rate low, but if I find them to be good would a set of yamahas ns-sp5700s be fine? especially with a small apartment?

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MR BEASTY SAVE YOUR MONEY GO CHEAP
Oct 30, 2006 8:38AM PST

First putting a subwoffer in your girlfriends apartment means eviction notice I have an idea for you if you want to keep peace with your neighbors Try using plant hangers to nest your speakers in there cheap and they really look cool and keep the sound from vibrating your neighbors walls THEN save your money for the day you lovebirds get your own place you can blow all your cash on some really good speakers ha ha steweeee

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onkyo?
Oct 29, 2006 12:44PM PST

You can get a 7.1 speaker set with a 230 watt powered sub from Onkyo for 350 bucks. I have an Onkyo HTIB hts790 that I got for 430 after two rebates through Circuit City online after two rebates. Just 80 dollars more for the receiver, however, the aforementioned speaker set is a newer and most likely improved set. Onkyo is generally better regarded as a manufacturer of receivers than Sony is. RoadRunner has a point about quality, but you did mention that this is not that big of a concern for you. I am happy with my set, although I know there is much better out there. I just didn't want to spend the money; there is a small chance I may upgrade my sub in the near future. Gotta play with more locations first perhaps, but its difficult because the thing is so big.

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SOUNDS LIKE BUNCH OF CRAP...........
Oct 30, 2006 9:00AM PST

ONKYO SPEAKERS really shouldn't be sold.
What's your hang-up with 7.1.......ANY 5.1 system should be more than enough, 6.1 if you're really pushing it.

You have TWO EARS, why in the heck would you need 8 speakers????

It's a matter of psycho-acoustics........

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sheesh, psycho-acoustic salesmanship or pedantry?
Oct 30, 2006 9:41AM PST

Maybe you would say Honda Civics and Toyota Corollas shouldn't be sold and that everyone should buy luxury only. Onkyo started out making parts for speakers before they started making their well known receivers! Do you tell movie theaters they are wasting their money on their 7-channel systems because people only have two ears? Or maybe you tell them to get rid of their stuff for a better 5 channel system... DTS outputs at 6.1 and it's quite nice to have the rear(s) when watching DVD's, well, at least for me.