Onkyo 805 receiver

1. On the volume used. If you don't feed more power to the speakers using the 130 W channel than using the 110 W channel, the current speakers should suffice. Only if you want to squeeze out that last 20 W to get more volume (in stead of using a smaller part of the total to get a little bit less distortion and a little bit better sound quality), your current speakers might be insufficient.

2. What are the specs of your current speakers? Maybe they easily go up to 150 W already?

3. There's no need to buy speakers from the same manufacturer at all. The only thing that matters for a normal receiver is the impedence (8 ohm?).

Kees

The impedance on the current receiver is 8 ohms.

However, there is a "warning" in the instructions that says that the speakers can handle the specified input power when used for normal music production. It then has a list of no-no signals for the speakers.

It also says under "audio/video" Adjustable crossover (60, 80,100,120,150 Hz.
I'm not sure what that means.

thanks for your help

If your Onkyo R530 works fine, jumping on board for a VERY fine package as the new 805 with HDMI 1.3 & costing a thousand dollars would just be spending money for the sake of spending money.

Normal size spaces with normal speakers will blast your brains out with sound far less than 110 watts per channel.

Speakers are completely independent from power sources like receivers. There are at least a fe hundred speaker makers. Speaker specialists generally make better speakers than those form component makers, which are often just afterthoughts.

I'm just guessing that you're a newbie at this. In that case there's no way you need a fine thousand dollar receiver unless you're very ambitious to get into fine sound in a serious way. Even than, we'd recommend you maximize the budget for speakers & get, if needed, a really capable receiver of, say $500 max. One of those from any of at least a half dozen brands will do all most anyone needs.

Take a little time ot determine what it is you do need & post back more specifically . There are several regulars here who would be pleased to give some guidance.

I guess I am sort of a newbe but the reason I was thinking of getting a new receiver is that I will be getting a new 52" Bravia TV to replace my 50" Sony projection TV. I don't have HDMI on the R530.

Reason for replacing tv? well it's a long sad story of a bulb burnout (after 3 years) which is ok but the people C City sent to replace it(on the Plan) are the very worst I have ever seen. My first clue was that they had to borrow my screwdriver to open the lamp box. They then came back in 10 days with the lamp, put it in and it blew out in less than 30 min. of use. I called them up immediately and said it's gone again!! Then I got a courtesy call asking if I like their service. I called again & mailbox was full. Had to fax a message. They called again and said they don't know who I talked to. They would be here on a Friday to get the TV to take it to the shop. Friday came and went -twice!! -and when I called again, they said who told you that? We don't go to your town on Fridays.We only go on Mondays. They are to come tomorrrow. Maybe.
After my Plan runs out, I will buy a Bravia!! but probably not from CCty. Now you know why I want a new receiver with HDMI connections. And yes, my present speakers are wonderful!

KEEP THE SPEAKERS YOU ALREADY ENJOY.

STAY AWAY from CCY, BUY A NICE BRAVIA 46" SET KDL-46W3000 or 46V3000.

Best wishes,
Riverledge.

wire the incoming signal through the receiver. The HDMI cable can go directly to the TV. The TV will then get the maximum video signal, providing the incoming source, such as cable or whatever, is high definition. Some folks don't understand that the incoming signal has to be high definition also.

The audio would be wired to the receiver then to the speakers.

I'm indeed sorry you have had such an outrageously bad experience with CC. I am a firm believer in being polite but persistently firm. You were on an extended service &/or warranty plan. Dig out you copy of the agreement & read very carefully to see if they have weasel words that makes the plan worthless. If at just three years old, I would seriously try Sony authorized service.

Thank you NM_Bill for that great tip. I shouldn't have to buy a new receiver then. great!!:-D

Yes the DVR cable box I have is high def and has a HDMI connection.

I checked the Plan from CC and all is covered. The bulb on the tv is only rated for about 3 yrs.
That's why I got the Plan..that and I live in the Lightening capital of the world!!

I am to leave on vacation in 2 days so I hope they come for the tv..or maybe not. I don't really trust them with my tv. I have the serial number just in case. If they can't fix it, they have to give me a new one.

Thanks everyone for all our help.

i just bought a onkyo 805 receiver the new hdmi 1.3 receiver. I hooked it up to my Playstation 3 via hdmi i cannot get the hi def audio to work. If anyone out their nows how to get it to work please let me know.

Sorry I don't know how to hook up a playstation. Wish I could help you. If you get it to work, let me know how it sounds. I am thinking of getting one eventually.

Hi there, I just wanted to bring to your attention that the playstation 3 does not decode hi def such as Dolby true hd and dts hd. As of right now there is no player that can send this hi def format to a reciever. Your reciever is very future proof, the only problem is there is no HI def or blue ray player that can transmit these new formats via HDMI. Don't worry though they will be coming out in the very new feature.

The Panasonic players can decode/unpack TrueHD and DTS-HD HR. Just use the 8 ch analog outputs to the 8 ch analog inputs of the receiver. Bass management is occuring in the player, so its flexibility might be an issue.

I realized that you can send this via the analog out puts. But do you know of any player that can send it bit-stream via hdmi to the reciever? Just curious.

this stuff is actually extremely confusing, as far as trying to guess how it will finally work out. Some people people that decoding MUST be done in the future. Because of PIP stuff, commentary that is remixed somehow, I dont know the details. There was stuff about this at the NAD t175 thread at avs, a bit, quite confusing.

but if its decoded in player, and sent as pcm, its just as good, some say better? dunno.

and whats wrong with analog outs anyways?

I do agree it is a bit confusing, and who knows if there will be a dramatic improvement on sound quality. I however don't have a problem with analog outputs. I actually use them right now on my oppo 980h dvd player that is connected to my onkyo reciever, they give great sound. I guess my point was that the whole reason HDMI technology was so great was that it eliminated the need for extra cables such as 7.1 analog and you could run video and audio through one cable. My guess is that within the next year we will see alot of products actually using the technology that HDMI can really benefit from, for example all of the new HD audio sources.

a person who knows way more than I do said this about MA (not THD or HR) from the aforementioned NAD thread. Basically defending a modular design w/o having MA decoder built in already for a 2k unit....:

"I do think the DTS-MA decoding upgrade path could prove useful, if more discs start shipping with it. I believe only the Onkyo HD-805 can unpack DTS-MA on the HD-DVD side, and none can on the BD side. The Onkyo may actually require external (receiver-based) decoding for DTS-MA to work at all, possibly because it lacks the hardware to do the decode by itself.

So I guess in summary:

1. If you must have DTS-MA, you need
2. the Onkyo HD-805 and
3. a receiver that can accept DTS-MA bitstream (HDMI 1.3) and
4. decode it via an upgradeable module offered by NAD in the future if there's enough demand for it.

Until then, I'm glad they didn't build the extra cost into the system."

** Nuttz, this person's posts can be *sometimes rather cryptic....
OK, I found that blurb about "remixing", and why bit-streaming would be UNwanted, or why referring to why it needs to be decoded in the player in the future:

"It doesn't matter at all, actually, since the player needs to unpack the TrueHD anyway to remix it with the other features (a.k.a. "Advanced Authoring") of the disc, including menu sound effects, PiP (in HD-DVD's case anyway, since BD doesn't support PiP yet), and so on...

For now and the foreseeable future, this is a pointless feature that few if any will need to take advantage of."

(**Then a different person said this):

"the new release tosh hd-dvd players are said to output bitstream, as is the sony to come and the pioneer blu-ray. theres also the samsung 5000 dual player. so quite a few players with bitstream ability for the hd audio formats. there are a few avrs with hd audio capability, onkyo denon, yamaha and pioneer to name a few.

all that said yet to see anyone talk abotu bitstream from player to avr and the benefit. till someone can actually do it and find its fo some benefit probably a moot point. and moot as a feature. and I think thats the angle nads playing. the aurious texas chip can apparently do the hd audio formats but no point buildign the capability in jsut yet if it cant be used. another one to wait and see. do they infact deliver on the modular promise...if the genuine need arises.

I like the idea of hte modular construction that they can add a dab tuner down the track to suit local broacast format for example."


I told you it was a bit confusing

I get great rezult with B & W model CDM7...the sound is terrific.The box can handle up to 150 w and has impedance 8 ohm...a big love between Onkyo and B&W