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Once again, appalled but in no way surprised

Mar 4, 2004 12:14AM PST
http://www.wnbc.com/wtc/2896142/detail.html
http://www.iht.com/articles/508754.html

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"It's as sick as people who stole things out of the place," Firefighter Tommy Fee, of Queens Rescue Squad 270, told the Daily News in Thursday editions. "The image of firefighters at ground zero should not be used for this stuff, for politics."
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I hadn't expected bush's first campaign act to be the exploitation of tragedy, but I guess I was just being optimistic. He might as well have superimposed an image of himself sitting on the flag draped stretcher, grinning, waving his arms, and yelling 'vote for me', while his little legs swing playfully.

Dan

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Re:Re:Bush's leadership ...
Mar 6, 2004 10:16PM PST

Any time you dole out advice on morality I am reassured that mine is firmly intact and healthy. Thanks!

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Don't be too comforted by your complacency
Mar 7, 2004 11:20PM PST

Most people think their own morality is 'firmly intact and healthy'. This includes terrorists, mass murderers, freedom fighters, martyrs, saints, etc.

Dan

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My 2 cents.........
Mar 4, 2004 11:08PM PST

I would find it more odd if he left out his leadership shown during a most important time of our country's history. It would be like leaving out the "experience" section of your job resume.

I am, therefore, not appalled nor even upset that he and his campaign folks are choosing to do so.

I do, however, believe there can certainly be correct and incorrect ways to present it. I have not seen the ads myself, so cannot say how I feel about them. The descriptions given do not seem too far out of line.

As some of you have already stated here, there will always be people who will find fault with what one party or the other does no matter what it is. We find a candidate to support and will back him/her up. The opposing candidate we will find things to discredit about him/her and/or their campaign. Human nature. Happy

Marcia/Oregon/USA

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Re:My 2 cents......... P.S.
Mar 5, 2004 12:16AM PST

I forgot to add: I am not 100% in either the Bush camp nor the Kerry camp. In looking at my stand on several issues, I am probably more in line with Kerry's side; however, I have been, for the most part, in support of Bush's actions regarding the fight on terrorism.

Sometimes this "party" system of our government drives me nuts! Politics, Sex, Religion, and Computers........you can find extremists in all areas! Every 4 years we get hit BIG TIME with the political part of it.

My support of our President (or a candidate) has nothing to do with a "party tag" attached. I do not feel I have the right to tell anyone who disagrees with me that they, themselves, don't have the right to do so, anymore than I have a right to tell someone that if they are Buddhist rather than Protestant they are wrong.

Let's "agree to disagree" without mudslinging. We can leave that to the candidates Wink

Marcia/Oregon/USA

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Exactly. Much ado about nothing. Posturing, nothing more. [nt]
Mar 5, 2004 12:32AM PST

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New campaign rules, apparently...
Mar 4, 2004 11:32PM PST

1. Inasmuch as John Kerry served in Vietnam, any negative reference to John Kerry's voting record during his 19 years in the Senate of the United States shall be deemed to be an attack on Kerry's patriotism.

2. Any images of Vietnam used in Kerry campaign commercials are not only appropriate, but serve as proof positive of John Kerry's fitness to serve the country as its president.

3. Any images of 9/11 used in Bush campaign commercials are not only inappropriate and exploitive, but shall also serve as proof positive that George Bush is unfit to serve the country as its president.

4. Any group of people who support the reelection of George Bush shall be deemed a "special interest." Any group of people who support the campaign of John Kerry shall be deemed a "constituency."

5. Referring to Kerry as a liberal is a Partisan smear, not a fact.

6. A change in position by Kerry is an adjustment or evolving position. Anything said by the President is a lie.

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Bo, I'm afraid I must disagree with number 4.
Mar 4, 2004 11:39PM PST

I think it reads:

4. Any group of people who support the reelection of George Bush shall be deemed "extremists." Any group of people who support the campaign of John Kerry shall be called "the people of the United States."

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And also, Bo...
Mar 4, 2004 11:57PM PST

And also, Bo, if Kerry refers to 9-ll I doubt that we'll hear that "His shoes are stained with the blood of the 9-11 victims he's piling up to use for his campaign." as we have seen with Bush.

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How much of that debris went to the dump instead? Why worry over a few memory pieces collected? [nt]
Mar 6, 2004 9:36PM PST

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