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Oldsmobile rolls into history

Apr 29, 2004 1:27PM PDT

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Bye-bye Cutlass.
Apr 29, 2004 1:44PM PDT

Enjoyed my 1969 350ci I had in the 70's.

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And only around 30 years too late IMO
Apr 30, 2004 12:47AM PDT

Gotta wonder what little old men who can't afford Caddies will drive now. Buicks I guess.

I remember an issue of Consumer Reports a few years ago in which they reviewed an Olds model. One comment was "This IS your father's Oldsmobile." I was rolling. Sitting in one is like taking a trip back in time to the early 70s. May it rest in peace.

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Around here, the Chrysler LX minivan...
Apr 30, 2004 1:04AM PDT

...with all the bells and whistles seem to becoming the older man's Oldsmobile replacement. With the loss of Oldsmobile and the pricing of Cadillacs, that will probably grow. Must be the comfort factor and the sense of driving a "big" vehicle. I must confess, this middle aged guy just bought a Grand Caravan, couldn't quit justify the $30K and plus for the other.

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What always amuses (and scares) me......
Apr 30, 2004 1:21AM PDT

.....is when I see huge Cadillacs being driven by little old ladies who can barely see over the dashboard. My personal logic would be "I'm a small person, I can't see over dash in big car, I should buy a smaller car."

At least GM realizes who's buying these cars. My MIL has a Caddy. We were visiting her recently and that car alerts you to EVERYTHING. It would ding whenever you drove in reverse just to remind you that you were backing up. And of course it had that typical GM power steering and suspension, which makes the car feel like mush.

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Yep, the Grand Caravan
Apr 30, 2004 1:46AM PDT

will automatically cut off my headlights after 3 minutes if I forget to, turn off interior lights 15 minutes after I forget to, allow a small amount of fresh air in if I leave the AC/Heat Recirculate button on too long, seems to ding for everything while I try to figure out what I've forgotten this time, LOL. It tell you on the instrument panel when the cruise control is on, although I think they should have that on an auto cutoff too if you haven't used it after 10 or 15 minutes. If I forget and leave the gas cap off a light comes on inside, if I just forget to close the gas door, since the slider would hit it when opened, that door will refuse to open till the gas door is closed. If a door's not closed properly you get a light and the dinging. I'm not sure if it tells me when it's time for an oil change like my wife's Lumina does. I have to read that book again, I think there's some things I forgot. I think it warns on more fluids than just the oil. I didn't even get the top model, just the SE with essential extras like power windows and door locks.

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Little old women in Cadillacs. You mean like this?
Apr 30, 2004 1:53AM PDT

)

this morning on the Interstate,

I looked over to my left and there was a woman

in a brand new Cadillac doing 65 mph

with her face up next to her

rear view mirror putting on her eyeliner.

I looked away for a couple seconds and when I looked back she was halfway over in my lane, still working on that makeup.

As a man, I don't scare easily.
But she scared me so much;
I dropped my electric shaver,
which knocked the donut out of my other hand.

In all the confusion of trying to straighten out the car
using my knees against the steering wheel,
it knocked my cell phone away from my ear
which fell into the coffee between my legs,
splashed, and burned Big Jim and theTwins,
ruined the damn phone,
soaked my trousers,
and disconnected an important call.

Damn women drivers ! !

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Re:Little old women in Cadillacs. You mean like this?
Apr 30, 2004 3:23AM PDT

Nah, if she's tall enough to get her face up next to her rear-view mirror, then she's also tall enough to be able to see over her dashboard!

Also, do those cars have an automatic speed control that identifies the current speed limit and then keeps the car going at least 10 mph slower?

A little alert message that your turn signal has been on for 20 minutes would be a nice touch too.

Happy

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Turn Signal! That was the one I forgot!!
Apr 30, 2004 9:52AM PDT

From the manual, page 105;

Turn Signal Warning

If the vehicle electronics sense that the vehicle has traveled at over 18 mph (29 km/h) for about one mile with the turn signals on, a chime will sound to alert the driver.


The other thing I forgot is the locks drop automatically anytime I hit 18 mph, in case I forgot to lock them. Probably to help protect forgetful people against car jackers.

One thing I guess is a good safety feature but irritate the 'ell out of me is the gear selector won't move from PARK until you put your foot on the brake. I had a habit of putting my other van in PARK at long lights and when it changed just slap it down to drive and go. Not so quick and easy to do now. The feature is to protect children who have idiots for parents that leave them in a running vehicle to rush into a convenience store or similar situation.

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We LOVE our Intrigue
Apr 30, 2004 3:45AM PDT

Guess the next used one we buy will be our last Sad

Evie Happy

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Good car.
Apr 30, 2004 11:52AM PDT

Wife almost got one of those instead of the Lumina, but the engine was a bit larger than we wanted and I think she felt the hood was too hard for her to see inside. She likes to see where the end of the car is, LOL. I thought it was very comfortable inside, but the headlamps were a bit radical at the time. Now lots of new cars have similar headlamps. We usually try to buy popular vehicles (those produced in more numbers) so there will be lower repair costs later on if needed, so we were a bit worried in that regard too. That was in 1999 and there was already rumors about the demise of Oldsmobile.

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About that 1st V-8 Rocket 88 that the article skimmed over....
Apr 30, 2004 3:35AM PDT

It was Olds 1st V8 and had overhead valves coming out in 1949, not like previous flat head V8's that Ford MoCo and Cadillac had. Of course Cadillac also came out with the overhead valve V8 in 1949. Well, anyway the '49 Olds was the fastest US production auto from 0-60 MPH and started winning all the stock car drag strip races. I bought a used one in 1953 ($1250) and it was the hot rod of its day. It continued to be the car to beat for speed until the 1st V8 overhead valve Chevrolet came out in 1955 which started winning the stock car drag races. I bought my new '55 V8 Chev in Dec 1954 for $2375. My next Olds was a 1960 4dr 88 with (WOW) air conditioning. Last Old purchase new from dealer was a 1976 2dr Cutlass Brougham with every extra available, cost $6475. I loved that car and kept it sitting up until 5 years ago. It then only had 78,000 miles, engine in perfect condition, but started to rust out all around the landau top, some quarter panels, and rubber molding around the bumpers deteriorated. Kept it covered as no room in the garages, but finally with wife's encouragement parted with it, me almost in tears.

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Re:The Only Olds I ever owned was a "1953" 98
Apr 30, 2004 4:09AM PDT

Yea long and pass everything but a Gas Station. Did you know John, Olds was the first car for the public with a automatic trans. 1939
Best car I ever owned was a "67" Mustang 289 2+2 fastback with a C-6 Trans set up for street dragging. What a screemer that one was.

george

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Yes George, that '67 Mustang fastback was a real screemer....
Apr 30, 2004 6:39AM PDT

a friend of mine had one and I went for a ride with him several times. You could just feel the power while crusing normal...punch it and your head would snap back.

Yep, I recall reading that the Old's had the 1st automatic transmission. As a teenager, a friends relative had a late 1930's 4dr Cord which was the 1st auto with front wheel drive. Another friend in high school had a 1940's 2dr coupe Lincoln Zepher 12 cylinder flat head, which he raced with us on our homemade circle track. Forgot to mention that in 1952 I purchased a 1938 Cadillac 4dr, Gray, red leather seats, floor stick shift, and flat head V8 that would really get up and go. Seemed much faster than the old flat head '37 and '39 V8 Fords that I previously owned as a teenager. I purchased that old Cadillac for $295 and it would be worth a fortune if I still had it today.

The '76 Olds I had was the last of the big style (you're right...gas eaters) Olds. They came out in 1977 with the new look & smaller that I never did like.

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I had a 67 Convertible...
Apr 30, 2004 6:50AM PDT

Yellow with the beefed up 289, rally wheels and a black top. The perfect car. The ex-wife made me trade it for a ... 73 PINTO station wagon when my son came along. Arrrrrgh. What would it be worth today? Story of my life. I also had a 65 GTO and a 77 Vette. I could be sitting on a gold mine if I still had them. I drove a lot of Oldsmobiles as rentals and a rich friend had a 67 442 that would force your eyes into the back of your head. Being a bonafide car freak I hate to see any Marque disappear. They were on the right track with the Aurora - sweet engine too.

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Re:I had a 67 Convertible...
Apr 30, 2004 8:53AM PDT

Hi Patrick:

Your right. Those cars are worth big bucks today. I saw a 67 Mustang just like the one I had, at a show about 8 yrs ago. I ask the fellow how much he would sell it for. $16,000 he wanted. I walked away with a tear in my eye. Two of my sons are big into mussel cars and bikes. As old as I am I still get a chance to take a dream cruise, when they let me.Happy

George

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Re:Yes George, that '67 Mustang fastback was a real screemer....
Apr 30, 2004 7:37AM PDT

Hi John:

Oh man, you talk about memory lane here. you got me all excited. I'm digging thru all these pictures I have of the classics and rods I once owned. I learned how to drive on the farm with a Model A truck. We also had a Model T (pedal shifter on the floor, crank start which had quite a kick sometimes.) Had to sneak around the back roads. Finally after about 3 yrs, I was old enough to get a license. Once I was legal I was hell on wheels. Good to have memories.

George

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(NT) "Street dragging"? "Screamer"? It'd come in about 9th or 10th among the real street racers of the era.
May 2, 2004 1:33AM PDT

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Re:Depends on the driver, Jack
May 2, 2004 3:36AM PDT

9th or 10th?? Come on now, be realistic. This Mustang handled like a dream and could run the wheels off the best Wink

George

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Well OK, but how 'bout a 426 Hemi Dodge or Plymouth and....
May 2, 2004 5:40AM PDT

...several others in the Dodge/Plymouth lineup like some of the hot 440's? Or even a fuel injected Corvette and if you don't think so on those, how 'bout an L88 Corvette or just a "plain vanilla"...LOL...427 Corvette. The hottest Mustang ever made was the 429 Cobra Jet and was no match for the 426 Hemi or the L88. So 289 cubic inches would never cut it. The 429 Mustang would "smoke" a 289 so bad that you could not tell whether the 289 was racing you or not.

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Why not go for the "rat"?
May 3, 2004 1:27AM PDT

The 455 by general motors? Personally, I prefered the 383 Mopar engine. I hear the Plymouth model is slated to follow Oldsmobile into obscurity.

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Ahhhhhhh,Olds-a soft spot of mine...........
May 1, 2004 9:28AM PDT

First one:
'52 98 convertible,303cu in V8 W/full power.Nosed and decked with red oxide primer/white top. Happy
Nice car but the damn thing had hydraulic power windows and top,hoses actually ran through the door jambs to work the windows.The motor/pump assy that powered the whole mess was inside the r/f fender,what a mess when a hose took a dump-lol.

'50 coupe(Chevy body)w/single piece windshield!
303cu in V8,valve train from a '54 324cu in V8,Weiand manifold 2x4 bbl carbs,dark gray prime,hood had 104 louvres.

Changed it to "stick" with a Cad/LaSalle trans from a '54 Caddy ambulance.I first learned how to "double clutch" with this car-lol! Very Fast Car.

'57 Super88 2dr HT-J2(3 2bbl) 371cu in V8,changed it to "stick" with the set up from the '50.Fastest Olds I ever had and you could hear the straight-cut gears in the Caddy trans howl like a banshee when you got on it.

When I got "back home" in '66 I discovered that Chevys were faster than any Olds I ever had and it ain't been the same since :=)

Later,Tony

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Re: Oldsm rolls into history -- Not your father's Oldsmobile (or yours either, now! NT)
Apr 30, 2004 3:44AM PDT

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As long as it's story time............
Apr 30, 2004 5:05AM PDT

I believe it was back in '79, my receptionist came in on
the intercom and told me a salesman from a local car dealer
wanted to see me.

I had purchased a new Chrysler a few weeks earlier, and
had no idea what this may be about, but had the salesman
shown in.

The salesman, from the Olds store, was known to me, as was
the dealer, and he proceeded to advise me that my wife
had come into the dealeship and ordered a Cutlass. When
she was asked about options, she told them 'one of each'.
The salesman was here to confirm the sale.

I quickly advised him if they wanted to make the sale,
they should 'close it' while the opportunity was there.
And further advised him if they indicated to her that
they had come to me first, they wouldn't make the sale.

She drove the wheels off that car.

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Re:First Car or First Date
Apr 30, 2004 10:23AM PDT

Ask a man if he remembers his first car or his first date.
No doult he will remember his first car and describe it in every detail.

Ask a Woman the same question and no doult she will remember her first date, and, well.Happy

George

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Re:Oldsmobile rolls into history
May 1, 2004 2:57AM PDT

Bath on wheels? Supermarket trolley on wheels? A guy in the UK was featured on the "Gadgets and Stuff" programme but I can't find a link Sad

He seemingly motorises these things to pass the Department of Transport road-worthiness tests (tax, licence and all) and hires them out as novelty transport for weddings and birthdays etc.

I guess one of these things will make it into the record books in years to come. Innovative or what?

Regards
Mo