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Old PC wont turn on

Dec 23, 2004 5:10PM PST

I was having some trouble with PC freezes. I thought it might be the power supply. I tried another supply that i knew worked and now the pc wont turn on. I dont think it is the powersupply becasue the other supply worked in another computer. Why wont it turn on? What actual hardware is needed for the pc to turn on? (not boot but just power on) The fans don't even move. Ocasionally when the power switch is hit the cpu fan will move for a second.

Specs
amd tbird 700
asus k7m
256mb generic ram
tnt2 32mb video card
psu that was in the unit is a 300w
the other one i tried is a 340w
the amps are
+5 +12 +3.3
20 8 15 for 300w
30 15 28 for 340w

Oh and the pc is stone cold.. was not over heating when it was running and it sat for several hours

I also reset the cmos and reseated the cpu.

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Check and recheck componets
Dec 23, 2004 8:57PM PST

On older mtrbds, they had as do new mtrbds. a VRM circuit/board. Voltage Regulator Module= VRM

Older mtrbds. tend to weardown this module as it was used to keep voltages within ceratin stable levels and cleanly, if it got outside the parmeteres or failed, the system failed. It maybe a smal upright bd. attached to mtrbd. or the area with alot of caps. present. Look for bulging or blown caps or leaking ones or severe discolration. If present, try a repair, but for this old system money&time spent better on new system. You can try a minized system plus any other ram(1 stick/bank) and no need for HDs, FDs, CD attached, verify so in bios, and try to boot, also yet another 3rd p/s unit or at least 350W. If it fails, either a bad componet on mtrbd. or device. These AMD cpus were very demanding ones at thier time it could have fried(nano secs), check under socket if discolored or glazing has occurred or sensor if present is good. These are areas to look into.

Feliz Navidad Grin -----Willy

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The usual fan twitch.
Dec 23, 2004 10:52PM PST

The IDE cables are off by row, pin or upside down or some lose nut, bolt, screw or a card came out of its socket...

Bob

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Old PC wont turn on
Dec 23, 2004 11:20PM PST

I had an asus k7v. You might have a hardware problem. Does the mobo have an LED (like a k7v) that lights whenever the PS is plugged into the wall outlet? If the LED is out you have no power to the mobo. Because the PS powers up for a moment and then shuts down, you might have a short someplace. Unplug the drives, etc. from the PS. Unplug everything from the mobo but the CPU, ram, videocard, monitor, and power, and then boot up. Don't run the CPU without a fan. If the system boots, then shut down and unplug from the wall outlet and add the keyboard and reboot. Look for that LED, if it is lit then you still have power to the mobo. Don't add anything if it is still powered up. Keep adding components, one at a time, and rebooting until you find your problem. Keep trying and you will find the problem.
GP

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I fixed it
Dec 24, 2004 6:38AM PST

I disconnected all the drives. The mouse, keyboard, printer cables. Removed the soundcard and network card. I disconected the case fans. (The network card had its standby power light on). I pressed the power and it started. I replaced each thing 1 by 1 and it still starts. So i don't know exactly what it was but it works now.