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Office Has Never Been the Best

Oct 4, 2007 2:08AM PDT

WordPerfect and Lotus 123 are superior programs in every sense of the word. They have always been better than anything that MS offers. MS has been better at marketing and monopolizing the market for office suites just like they did with Windows.

To my knowledge, Microsoft has never produced an original piece of software at all. They look at what others are doing and when they see the market then they jump in and start their own. They copy the functionality from others come out with a first release that sucks and then build on it. This has been their modus operandi since they bought DOS from Seattle Computing.

Businesses and some home users have been converted to hamsters in wheels under the compatibility flag. Its worked.

Can business and home users survive without Office? Absolutely. I have saved clients tens of thousands by converting their users to OpenOffice. Of course there's resistance but after a while they get used to it. For e-mail I give them Thunderbird. Recently one user insisted in getting Office. Management gave in and bought it for her. I installed and configured it. When I showed her she was shocked. She kept asking; how come I can't do this or that anymore? She hated going back to Office and begged me to put her other programs back. I did, and again she's happy.

Think about this. What if WordPerfect or IBM teemed up with Mozilla and bundled Firefox and Thunderbird with their programs? Office killer? Could be!

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I'm not sure what the purpose of this post is
Oct 5, 2007 2:56AM PDT

other than Microsoft bashing. Such posts are not generally allowed. They are off-topic and serve no purpose.

Having said that I will also say this. I use Microsoft Office and have had no problems.

I often suggest to others OpenOffice if they want an alternative to Microsoft Office, but I see no reason to change myself.

Mark

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The best is yet to be.....
Oct 6, 2007 6:31PM PDT

No one program is "The Best". One chooses the program which works for his/her situation. Would you please provide examples of what MS Word cannot do, but others can, and of what MS Word can do, but others can't ? Small differences are bound to be found, but they do not make one program "the best", nor the other "unworkable". One learns to work around things, and to accept what is unavailable, and to change work styles and attitude.

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I use them both
Oct 6, 2007 6:43PM PDT

I use Open Office at home and Outlook 2000 at work, they're too cheap to buy a newer version.

They installed Outlook 2003 and Office 2000, so when I copy and paste something, sometimes the letters are big and sometimes they're small. I couldn't figure it out, why the Outlook 2003 box was grayed out, tech person told me why. Another employee has a similar problem. We asked the tech person, "Why can the just put Outlook 2000 back in so the two programs work together?" He said that once you open the emails with Outlook 2003, you wouldn't be able to get them with Outlook 2000. These emails are on the webserver, I would think they would be there.

Best recommendation is to hhave Outlook 2003 with Office 2003. Match them together, don't mix and match.


Rick

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Actually, you can...
Oct 6, 2007 7:39PM PDT

...just a work around. Configure Outlook 2000 or Outlook 2003 to leave messages at the server, then you will be able to access them again with the other program. Or you can configure both Outlooks to leave the messages at the server, but then you have to configure the servers to delete the messages after x days, as otherwise, you will run out of space....