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Question

Objective webhost test/review from magazine?

Jan 24, 2014 5:22PM PST

Hello.

I am looking for a web host.
Unfortunately, all look the same.
In most cases "unlimited".

I read again and again of incidents regarding suspension.
Then possibly Refund problems.

If the page suddenly has many visitors, there is an immediate suspension?

For example, a site like www.RateMyCop.com
Scenario: The television reports (in Germany "negative").
Immediately, many people are accessing the website.
The website breaks down.
Cancels the web host immediately the web space, and keeps my money?
GoDaddy suspended Rottenneighbor.com on flimsy reasons.


Is there a good web host in which this risk is low?
I do not need 99.999% or 99.9%. Not 98% or 97%.
It must also not be very fast, but also not very slow.
But I do not want to be kicked immediately when the page is popular.
In Germany there is a "scandal" culture at sites like www.RateMyCop.com.
That's a big risk in Germany. You can end up in prison.
I do not need a domain from the web host.


Is there a real difference between an $ 8 offer and a $ 2 offer?
Or do they kick all without distinction?

There is no warez, no terror, etc. planned Wink.
Criticism of the government and companies, grading of civil servants, maybe suicide and euthanasia.


Thanks.

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At 2 and 8 dollar plans
Jan 25, 2014 12:44AM PST

These are too low price plans to expect service such as what CNET.com has. And if you trip over their limits, is getting a refund on 8 bucks worth the time? I can't guess what brought you to such a low cost provider but some turn to putting such content on FaceBook. And that's free.
Bob

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Afraid of possible success of the Website, perverted ... ;-)
Jan 25, 2014 6:08AM PST

I want to minimize the risk of stress. But I need actuelly not a Safehoster or Bullet proof hosting.
But "$8" are already the absolute limit. Probably not Wink. I prefer less. OK, "$ 2" is not necessary.

I want to minimize the risk of stress.
But $ 8 are already absolute limit. I prefer less. "$ 2" is not necessary.

The topic is the search for a magazine for webhosting with a comparing review Happy.


Facebook is not a web host (?).
I also have to remain anonymous.
Facebook offers no forum. No file upload.
And the topic of suicide is absolutely forbidden on FB.

I will certainly not deliver an arbitrarily enterprises such as Facebook.
What does not offer the features that I need (real webspace for WP, SMF, phpBB, etc.).


I do not need especially "service", only a "certain security" against arbitrary.
And I am also satisfied with 95% availability, and mediocre speed.

The web host should not suspend at the first rush of visitors. After a TV report, this is possible.
Yes, it can look like a "DDOS attack".

We (hoster and I) can talk about anything, find a solution (temporarily offline, upgrade, change the hoster...).
But not immediately "kicking" without a agreement. If my site has success, I would pay more.
I must not start with a $35 package Wink.
I am afraid of losing pre paid money if the hoster makes problems.
To lose a month, I do not care. But 1, 2 or 3 years, that hurts.

Afraid of possible success, perverted ... Wink

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Then game over.
Jan 25, 2014 7:06AM PST

No web provider will shield you from the usual NSA and other governments. Even more so when 2 to 8 bucks is at stake.

I guess you didn't figure out how Facebook would be your easiest way to go hiding in plain sight.

Good luck with your search but from what I know, you'd have more luck finding an honest man.
Bob

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No Problem with "NSA"...
Jan 26, 2014 11:30AM PST

@ R. Profitt

I have no problem with "NSA and other governments" (in this case ;-] ).
Only with the transfer of data to foreign security services, governments, Prosecutors, Lawyers (for example from Germany) etc..


No, Facebook is not a Webhoster Happy.

Is it impossible to use facebook.
I do not understand what you mean. I want not any trouble, but I am confused Happy .
I need existencially Scriptings like a board or wordpress (as CMS, not as a "blog", I know wordpres.com :-]). A real Website.
It is impossible to make this with "Facebook" for my intentions.
I could make a site like RateMyCop, but for German employment office clerks.
No, I am not receiving social assistance, but "Hartz-4" is a big problem in Germany:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hartz_4

"Peter Hartz" is the namesake: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Hartz
A convicted felon.


Some people refer Hartz 4 as the worst crime since the Holocaust. I know that sounds hard. But it might be true ("worst crime").

"Are there similarities between Hartz IV, Agenda 2010 and the destruction of human life in the 3rd Reich?"
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fklausbaum.wordpress.com%2F2008%2F04%2F21%2Fgibt-es-gemeinsamkeiten-zwischen-hartz-iv-agenda-2010-und-der-menschenvernichtung-im-3-reich-gemeinsamkeiten%2F&act=url


"Humiliation Institute Employment Agency":
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.heise.de%2Ftp%2Fartikel%2F37%2F37081%2F1.html&act=url
("take her child to the home" = take her child to the youth asylum)


Indignation an office assistant (from a insider, now on leave on absence, because of their critical blogging activity):
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dradiowissen.de%2Fhartz-iv-kritik-die-empoerung-einer-sachbearbeiterin.126.de.html%3Fdram%3Aarticle_id%3D246173


System opponent - The Hartz IV rebel at the job center:
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.welt.de%2Fvermischtes%2Farticle115539372%2FSystemgegnerin-Die-Hartz-IV-Rebellin-im-Jobcenter.html&act=url


Poverty - a German problem (from DRadio Knowledge, a public radio):
http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=auto&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&u=www.dradiowissen.de%2Fgesellschaft-armut-ein-deutsches-problem.92.de.html%3Fdram%3Aarticle_id%3D241370&act=url


At that time, chancellor Schroeder has wanted to make Germany into a low-wage country, for more profit of the (also exporting) industry.
This is really true.

In the U.S., teachers are rewarded for a good grade point average ("GPA"). Right?
I saw it in an episode of "'til Death" Happy.

In Germany, teachers are punished for a high grade point average:
"Not too many A, please!"

http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sueddeutsche.de%2Fkarriere%2Fkritik-an-guten-noten-nicht-zu-viele-einser-bitte-1.592366


Why? The german government fears too many people with good qualifications. People with High Shool's degree may choose to study, or leave the country (for example, german doctors leave the country) etc..
Then, the low wage industry may be missing a lot of cheap workers. Also for the export industry.
More profit for the rich company owners and shareholders.

In Germany only 33 % make the high shool's degree. I believe, in South Korea 96%.
That would be the horror for the German government.
A german politician and philosoph (!):
"Studying too many? SPD politician warns of "academisation mania"":
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.faz.net%2Faktuell%2Fstudieren-zu-viele-spd-politiker-warnt-vor-akademisierungswahn-12554580.html


More stuff for temporary work agencies, as deboner, as packers at Amazon etc..

And many workers are so poorly paid, that the state (employment office) paid a large portion of the salary.
After a year, they must be paid regularly.
Bud the worker will fired shortly before the end of the first year.
Then a new subsidized low wage worker will "ordered" by the employment office.
"Gifts" to companies that export cheap. Even in the United States.
Hidden subsidies. Also, to the detriment of the United States. But first the other EU countries.


But in addition also senseless "activitys":
The "Hartz Factory":
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fspiegel%2Fprint%2Fd-76121041.html


They play "supermarket" with inflatable cheese wheels and closed empty yogurt cups (etc.) :
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.spiegel.de%2Fwirtschaft%2Fsoziales%2Ftraining-fuer-hartz-iv-empfaenger-arbeitslose-spielen-kaufmannsladen-a-686388.html

Video of the Fake Store : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v8hJn1Hm5ZE


Or they do jigsaw puzzles for days (completeness check), so they are sold second hand for a few euros:
"Ten days work for a puzzle"
http://translate.google.de/translate?hl=de&sl=de&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.taz.de%2F!37506%2F


Why do they do that? Each unemployed in a "activity" does not appear in the unemployment statistics.
There are also other tricks. Disease, certain age, etc. All "not" unemployed.
The goal of the employment agency is not primary a job for the "customer", it is the beautify of the statistic.

TUEV and DEKRA (both THE official "Technical Inspection Authority" every two years for cars) and other companies earn a lot of money with this shi*.
"Ursula von der Leyen" was Secretary of Labor, and a slimy "media *****" Wink .
They proudly presented the faked unemployment number on television.
A "cheering event" with self congratulation.

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Auto scaling
Jan 25, 2014 2:49PM PST

What you're looking for is a host that can automatically scale your server to meet current demands (traffic, bandwidth, etc), and then scale back when it is no longer needed.

Read more here: http://aws.amazon.com/autoscaling/

With Amazon's EC2, you can start small and you basically only pay for what you use:
http://aws.amazon.com/ec2/pricing/

There are many other companies that provide very similar features, so just look for that.

That said, you most likely won't find this feature for $8/mo. For that price, you're going to be either on a shared server, where if you take all the resources, they have to shut you down the protect the resources of other users you're sharing the server with, or you get a low-end, unmanaged VPS that won't automatically scale, but you can go into the control panel and do that. The thing there is that's it's unmanaged. You're responsible for everything on the server, it's security, updates, etc.

A server is an investment. If you don't think you will have a traffic spike, go with a shared server. If you're doing something that you believe will get you an absurd amount of traffic, you have to prepare your resources for it.

~Sovereign

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Amazon EC2 sounds very risky
Jan 26, 2014 11:27AM PST

@ Sovereign

I search ONLY shared space, not my own Server Wink .
I can only use a "panel". No telnet or other geek stuff Wink .
I have no knowledge of scripting and server admninistration.

Amazon E2:
I do not know what my site needs.
I do not know how many visitors I will have.
It seems very risky to pay depending on the workload.
Suddenly I have a high rush or a DDOS attack, and get a very large bill. I probably generating a lot of enemiesWink.
I should be able to decide how to proceed (if it happens).

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My last statement holds true then
Jan 27, 2014 2:24AM PST

You have to decide what's more important: Paying money to keep the server going in an event of a DDOS attack? Paying money for someone to manage and mitigate the effect that a DDOS may have? Or having your website go down until you can put it back up?

If you don't want to invest in site uptime and content availability, it sounds like cost trumps site uptime, in which case you've already made your decision, right?

You could get three shared hosts for $2 and then explore content mirroring, load balancing and fail over, but other than that, a sacrifice must be made.

Whether you're an enterprise company or a small website owner, everyone is trying to balance their priorities and find the fine line that satisfies all their needs. You have to find that line for you, because there isn't a solution that solves all your concerns.

~Sovereign

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Again Soveraign, I do not want a "Server"...
Jan 27, 2014 6:56AM PST

Again Soveraign, I do not want a "Server".
Only "Shared Space". A own "Server" is nutty Wink (at the beginning).

I fear no down times. It is a kind of "advertising" when the page brakes down by TV reportsWink.
The visitors will then know, that many people access it. And possibly, the media tell that the influx of visitors was very large. Not so badWink. As in the past "Rottenneighbor" or "IShareGossip" (german bullying platform for pupils. Vulgar language.).
For such pages negative PR is good publicity Happy. Each investigating prosecutor is advertising.

Of course, I would make frequent backups.


I'm afraid, my previously paid money not to get back.
Because of my domains, I have no fear (extortion by the webhoster). I host my domains externally (that is safer).


Now I am considering to start at a hoster like Infiumhost.com (*) or Goodnet.com.ua.
Both in Ukraine. But relatively cheap.
Not much space (Infiumhost max. 2GB, but with 25 addon domains), but at Infiumhost.com from 1, 3, 6 and 12 months without a huge price differences. And 6 and 12 months for the same price per month.
Why choose 12 months, if you can get 6 months for the same price...?
"Free Domain" is probably just the first year free. Uninteresting.
Goodnet has more space (more packets), but in relation less addon domains.
*) Hosting Package ELITE
Quota 2 gigabytes, 25 sites, 50 subdomains, MySQL databases 25, 25 FTP accounts.
1 month: $ 3.00 / 3 months: $ 2.75 / 6 months: $ 2.50 / 12 months: $ 2.50 (with "free domain")

For the future, possibly a provider with more memory would be good.
But as long as I do not need the space ...
With InfoumHost I can experiment without long prepayment.
If I need more space, I have to change.
More than 2GB it is not there.

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I probably will not earn anything on success.
Jan 27, 2014 7:01AM PST

I probably will not earn anything on success.
This is a matter of honor. Contacts for advertising companies are a risk. I need to provide my bank account or PayPal email.
German authorities may set out a bounty.

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Right, I got that
Jan 27, 2014 10:41PM PST

You don't want your own server, but a shared space is still going to be on a server, so when I talk of server, it's not necessarily your own server, but merely the hardware required to host your website.

In my experience, most shared hosts will not take down your website, delete everything, and take all your money. If your site really goes down for high traffic (not malicious activity), they will suspend your site and ask you to contact them to figure out the next steps... whether that's upgrading your account or activating your site again under the same plan. At that point, it's up to you to decide which route makes sense.

The cheaper the host, the less likely they are to spend time offering good customer service, simply because the funds aren't there to offer that AND hosting plans at a greatly discounted rate.

So if you go with any kind of host and pay month to month, make frequent backups (monthly, weekly, daily), in the worst case situation, you'd be out one month, at which point you can just sign up with another host. Since you own the domain and have your data backed up, there's no risk to you.

Good luck in your search!

~Sovereign

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Nasty storys about InfiumHost, next round...
Jan 29, 2014 12:33PM PST

Now I had read nasty things about Infiumhost.
And they do not answer Email and formular mail.
Thats a pitty, the packets are interesting.


Yes, my only fear is tho lose pre paid money.
Not downtimes. Also for days.
Thats not ebay or amazon Wink .


OK, what is the best "normal" host.
Possibly with 5 or more "addon domains", and i do not need "unlimited space".
Also >=2 oder >=5GB are ok for the beginning.

You really don't know a us or international magazine for webhosting or internet with objective reviews?
Really tests, not "cheer" from customers "without problems" Wink .

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The hosting companies
Jan 30, 2014 11:10AM PST

The hosting companies I use and have used do not fit your parameters.

If you search for "web hosting reviews" and basically filter out all the sites that *only* have reviews and use affiliate links, you're basically going to find blog posts from people listing their top 5 hosts.

You could sign up with either one of those. Again, if you pay month to month (not prepaid for a year), you still have nothing to lose, and like I mentioned earlier, most hosts are reasonable if your site does go down.

~Sovereign

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hosting
Jan 28, 2014 3:14PM PST

have you tried with "media temple hosting". If not then go to there official website and check the plans and feature. I am sure you must like this.
Just take a rough review.

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$20 ist to much for the unsure beginning...
Jan 29, 2014 12:38PM PST

$20 for the smallest packacke is to much for the beginning.
perhaps, I do not really use (If I can't make my ideas with standard scripts etc, because I have no knowledge about scripting etc.) this webspace for years.