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Obama and the Dutch (oil spill)

"The Dutch offered to fly their skimmer arm systems to the Gulf 3 days after the oil spill started. The offer was apparently turned down because EPA regulations do not allow water with oil to be pumped back into the ocean. If all the oily water was retained in the tanker, the capacity of the system would be greatly diminished because most of what is pumped into the tanker is sea water."

3 days after the spill started

http://www.examiner.com/x-325-Global-Warming-Examiner~y2010m6d12-US-reconsiders-Dutch-offer-to-supply-oil-skimmers

The President is getting very poor advice on this matter.
Absolutely no leadership.

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Not quite as simple as just saying "yes" to aid

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In fact, the US has accepted the offer of extra equipment from both Canada and Mexico... on the contingency that it is operated by US workers. Perhaps the Dutch are not willing to let US sailors operate their 4 custom designed skimming ships?

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why should they?

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When we go places in the world to help, do we just hand our equipment over to the locals at their insistence? No.

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How silly if true....

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Proving the point further.

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(NT) It is true, it is silly, and it is the law.

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New Jones Act...

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The problem is probably the New Jones Act (2006). It states:
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(NT) as i said... silly and the law ! ^_^

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No, Grim, just political,...

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...as is everything that Barack Obama does in pursuit of his "fundamental transformation" of the U.S. into a Euro style socialist state.

The Jones Act (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merchant_Marine_Act_of_1920) dates back to 1920 and was amended in 2006. The question is: Why should such a blatantly protectionist and isolationist law still be on the books?

In any event, the Jones Act can be waived, if the President has a mind to do so. The law was waived in 2005 in the wake of Hurricane Katrina. It seems that President Obama's masters in the unions aren't too keen in allowing foreigners to soak up any of the gravy from this disaster - and in Obamaland, what the unions want, they get.

http://www.examiner.com/x-7812-DC-SCOTUS-Examiner~y2010m6d14-Obama-blocked-cleanup-of-BP-oil-spill-by-Americas-allies-Failed-to-issue-needed-Jones-Act-waiver As you go through the links in this piece, you cannot help but realize the scam that's being run on us.

The President's recent address underscored that point. He spent most of his time imploring for "energy reform" - translated, crap and charade carbon taxes - that will destroy the American economy, if the December 2010 expiration of the 2001 Bush tax cuts along with the onset of the various Obamacare taxes don't do it first.

Of course, we must never let a good crisis go to waste in pursuit of the agenda, must we?

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(NT) You got it!

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RE: such a blatantly protectionist and isolationist law

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such a blatantly protectionist and isolationist law still be on the books?

Pasted in 1920...amended in 2006 (under Bush?)Bush in bed with the unions?...Big bed?

and it's part of Obamas pursuit of his "fundamental transformation" of the U.S. into a Euro style socialist state.?

86 years?

Of course, we must never let a good crisis go to waste in pursuit of the agenda, must we?

This doesn't only apply to politicians.

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(NT) Past not pasted

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(NT) Or "passed" maybe?

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that's better...correct

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that's the word I was looking for. I knew I wanted to put "ed" in there somewhere.

Thanks

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Bush waived it when necessary

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...during Katrina cleanup. Obama hasn't. The onus is back on Obama and Bush is cleared of any further accusations you might have on the matter.

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You know, I did a search about Bush and the Jones act...

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... when I first started preparing my response to Mike... and for the life of me, I could not find just the exact date that Bush waived the Jones act for Katrina. Too many results about the present crisis clouded the search results.

The thing is, if anyone is gonna hold Bush up as the Gold Standard for waiving that act, then I would like to know just how soon after the hurricane did Bush actually intervene?

Can anyone tell me?

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Katrina Landfall Aug 29, Jones Act Waived Sept 1.

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(NT) Thanks James

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WOW !!!!

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A leader taking the lead !!!!

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and by that one act, the Gulf Coast was restored...

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... to its' complete former glory within months.

Give me a break.

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Who said that?

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Imagine how much worse it would have been if he had NOT done it!

There is really NO excuse for Obama's inaction.

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You really think it could have been worse?

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(NT) You want him to suck it up with a straw?

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You missed the point, Paul

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Mike implied that we turned down all aid. The US did in fact, NOT turn down all aid. We actually accepted what aid that was LEGAL to accept. I was addressing his post.

Part of the slowness in current response was due to the fact that the Fed took BP's word as to how bad the spill was. I think BP should be held criminally negligent for the fact that they misrepresented how bad the spill was, and for not actually having a practical, and tested intervention in place on the coast.

Obama should stand up and admit he made a mistake for not stepping in sooner, but I have to admit that I said over a month ago, that BP should be allowed time to fix the situation because I thought they would have the expertise and equipment to do it before the Fed would. Turns out no one knew how to fix it.

I understand your point about the political end of it... but to claim it is just Obama that could have acted is, well it is ignoring the fact that both the congress and the senate could have called for a waiver, or quicker action too. In this case, the only politicos that were on the ball was local government, in the form of several state governors.

Still, don't lecture me about using a crisis to pursue an agenda. We lost thousands of lives and spent trillions of dollars this past decade doing just that same thing. When I complained about it then, people called me names and told me to shut up. I actually feel vindicated that people are saying this stuff about Obama but it is not now, and it never was... just the democrat's agenda.

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"Perhaps the media will ask why this was not done."

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I would not bet on it.

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Other countries are agog at his stupidity...

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...and obstinance on this matter.

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For almost 2 months

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a hundred,billion,trillion,gadzillion gallons of oil have spewed into the gulf and the PRESIDENT can't find a way to get any help in dealing with this with a plethora of options at his disposal.

ZERO LEADERSHIP

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(NT) That's a "LOT" of oil.

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well, remember it was a smaller leak...

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... until BP cut off the well head control valve (3 or 4 weeks ago, was it?).

Then it became a BIG leak.

Glad that plan worked out for BP. Glad that Exxon and the rest of the guys use the same plan. I feel saffer already.

Wink

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What options Mike?

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I asked you this over a month ago... just what do you expect the president to do? What do you think the Fed could do that the oil companies can't?

Other than trying the Russian nuclear option, I don't know of anything the fed has in it's possession that the oil companies don't.

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He considered using a straw

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but after thinking on it he realized that wouldn't work and said so.

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(NT) lol

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