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O'Hum....Control of world's oldest profession....

Chicago..."Web site puts `johns' on the spot"

http://www.chicagotribune.com/technology/chi-0506220273jun22,1,7693932.story?coll=chi-techtopheds-hed

Photos & addresses of aprx 188 males arrested in the last month: (Note how much better their "police" photos are than those bad boys on the Post Office "10 Most Wanted".)

http://www.chicagopolice.org/ps/list.aspx

Ah! Hooker's now have addresses of future clients.

"It is estimated that between 16,000 and 25,000 women are involved in prostitution in Chicago over the course of a year." Not fair...no photos & addresses. Wink

Hmmm.....
'The Kansas City program (had photo's published) , which has been put on hold as the department reorganizes, did not reduce the number of prostitution-related arrests, according to police.'

Kinda reminds me of years ago when some of my relatives would check the weekly religious list of 'condemmed' movies like 'Gone With the Wind', to see which good movies to attend at the local 'Picture Show' theater.
Silly

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I love the disclaimer

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(in very small print, of course)

These individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

But we'll humiliate them in public anyway....

Maybe they ought to wait until these guys are actually found guilty first?


And as for photos of the hookers -- if you watch cop shows like I do, you'd think that hookers are pretty hot chicks. The reality is quite different, at least 'round this part of the country.

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Feel free not to answer, Josh.

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Why are you so familiar with the looks of prostitutes?

I'm really just curious.

Wink

Dan

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LOL I lived in NYC for nearly 30 years....

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....and worked nights for over 10 years. I saw plenty of 'em. And no, I've never patronized one. Those guys looked pretty pitiful; imagine how low you have to sink to want to give $20 to some skanky hooker.

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Street Hookers ....

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I've seen them on the late night HBO specials concerning street hooker in NYC, and you are right Josh.

The most beautiful hookers I've ever seen was in the early 60's at the old Thunderbird Casino in Las Vegas. They had a great "Lounge" topless show that you could view standing up from the gambling area without going in to sit down. At the Casino bar outside the Lounge, there was always several 'just gorgeous' well dressed young girls. If they were busy talking to men, and you asked the bartender if there were any hookers around, he would always say.. 'they are not allowed at his bar'...but he would apparently give some sort of a signal, and a fabulous young innocent looking girl would somehow just sit down next to you and order a drink.

Now-a-days (wife & I go at least once a year..every year) in Vegas, the Casinos/Hotels are quite strict about hookers in the city, although legal outside. At my age ...guess some of the well dressed ladies..think I have money...and if I look around while playing Blackjack...can sometimes spot, making eye contact...and they will show up at my Blackjack table, flashing their nice diamond rings. At some of the Casino bars...occasionally one will hang out, but not like the old days.

Hey, Hookers are not just 'Hookers'. On one of our USAF lay over flights in the early 60's several of us (3)went to the Thunderbird, picked up a couple great looking girls, we all went to 'paint the town red', dancing at different Casino including somewhere on the dancing floor roof of a nice Casino. We all had a great time and returning to the Thundebird the two girls let us know they were 'pros' (although it was assumed previously), enjoyed the evening tremendously (around 3AM then), and had the valet bring their new convertable around. One of the guys went with them while we continued to party and end up in our own rooms. The next day flying back to our home base the guy said they dropped off one girl at her residence, and he went home (her apartment) with the other that had the convertable. She was an Angel, so he said, and he never spent a dime. I lost track of him through the years, but think he may have ended up marrying her.

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slip of ther tongue JR ;-)

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"lay over flights"

Wink

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(NT) (NT) Ahem.....old AF term..;-)

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I don't think I've ever

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been disappointed by a film that was being protested.

Wink

Dan

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Yep...

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I recall when Clark Gable said, "Frankly my dear, I don't gave a Dam" in that GWTW movie, it caused a big flap, but my parents let me view the movie with them when I was quite young.

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I have seen hundreds of them as I worked

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in a hospital which treated prisoners from Rikers Island.
I dont know about brothels but the average street walker is not somebody you would like to be seen with in public let alone sleep with. They have all of the disabilities of drug addicts,plus those inflicted by their pimps and are indeed a sorry appearing lot!

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The last time such statistics were made public....

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....I believe something like 50% of the hookers in NYC were HIV positive. Something else to consider when a 20 dollar bill is burning a hole in your pocket.

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It is interesting ...

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... that embarrassing the not-yet-convicted (as in this case) or even the convicted (as in another case discussed here) seems to be the LIBERAL answer to "solving" the problems ASSOCIATED with prostitution (drug addiction, exploitation, child molestation) by somehow thinking they can wipe out prostitution? Puh-leeze. The solution is to wipe out the liberal welfare system that has created the explosion of illegitimate births that make girls more prone to such abuse and exploitation to begin with. In many ways, the fact that prostitution is illegal to begin with is what makes the profession so frought with danger for the women involved. In places where it is legal (and ZONED so that "destroying the neighborhood" argument is moot) women in the profession are in far better shape.

Evie Happy

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Blaming our puritan ethic on the liberals

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in areas like this is,I think,a stretch.
Acceptance and legalization would be more likely to succeed.
At least the exploitation aspect and the health concerns could be controlled.

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You mean the world's oldest profession.....

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....predates American liberalism? Wow, you learn something new every day around here, don't you.

I was in Italy a few years ago and there were brothels in ancient Pompeii. And I don't have the stats but it's well known that in New York, a large number of prostitutes are girls from out of town, runaways, and a good number of them are from middle-class families.

So much for stereotypes.

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Didn't you tend bar some years ago

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in Nashville, as I recall, in Printers Alley. I frequented a couple of Bar's in Printers Alley in the early 80's with/without the wife but never saw any Hookers.

Surely, you must have 1st hand experience in dealing with the 'Ladies of the Evening' around your Bar.

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I managed the bars in a hotel in Nashville....

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...but never was a bartender while living there. I tended bar in New York and the only time I can recall knowingly seeing hookers in there was during Fleet Week one year, when some sailors came in with their "dates." But there was never ANY solicitation going on in my bar that I could spot.

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It is LIBERAL ...

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... politicians taking these steps.

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That's a good plan.

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I'm sure they'll have that prostitution problem taken care of in no time.

Next?

Dan

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Dan, sometimes you keep me in stitches....:D

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:^O :^O :^O

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Control of world's oldest profession

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must go to the germans....

in the upcoming world cup (soccer) they are putting up a 40,000 ''tent city'' just for the ''ladies of the night''

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Name and photos, yes -- addresses, no.

Even "johns" have some privacy rights, and this would seem to open the city up to liability if someone is targeted for criminal activity as a result of the information being made public.

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I agree Dave

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the addresses are just too much of a risk in my mind.
If I we're Mayor Daley I would have thought of the money put at risk to litigation.

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There is most likely

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a liability waiver for law enforcement that states they are not responsible for any vigilante activities that result from their actions or inaction.

Dan

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I'm not sure why this much is necessary

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I mean even the names and pictures! This is the info I want on sex offenders, murderers, and pedophiles.

Who's protected by publishing all this info on johns? I'm guessing the prostitutes don't need a ''directory'' of those looking for their services!

Cindi

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It's about humiliation, not protection

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How many of these guys are married? Their wives, families, neighbors and friends (theoretically) see their pictures up there, find out what these losers have been up to, and supposedly it deters them from patronizing prostitutes again. I don't know whether it works or how well.

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That's not what the politicians ...

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... promoting this policy are stating is their objective. They seek to "improve the neighborhood" and "cut down on exploitation of underage girls" with this NONSENSE.

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(NT) (NT) And if there are any wrong charges? how to correct that

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That's why I think it's wrong to do this....

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....before the defendants have been convicted of anything.

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With names and faces ...

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... addresses are probably not difficult to get. The local police logs have published the names, ages and addresses of those arrested (not convicted, for various crimes) for as long as I can remember.

Evie Happy

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