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Nuclear. Nuclear. NUCLEAR!

Apr 28, 2005 10:53AM PDT

How freakin' difficult is it to say 'nuclear'?

Wow!

Dan

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I'm not sure what your complaint is
Apr 28, 2005 10:57AM PDT

(Dubya's fractured English?), but:
Can any of us mistyping, misreading SE folks rightly cast a stone? Happy
Regards, Doug in New Messico

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Rather have a bumbling speaker
Apr 28, 2005 11:01AM PDT

I can trust than a slick tongued willy

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(NT) well you know they think kerry was for real
Apr 28, 2005 11:39AM PDT
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I have no ideeaarr ...
Apr 28, 2005 11:42AM PDT

... what you're talking about. Unequivocably!

Evie Happy

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I missed the broadcast
Apr 28, 2005 11:01AM PDT

Thanks for the summary.Wink

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(NT) (NT) Dunno ... ask Jimmy Carter
Apr 28, 2005 11:14AM PDT
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Did Carter mispronounce it?
Apr 28, 2005 11:24AM PDT

That's neat; great example of something or other. Do you remember that he was a graduate engineer in- nooculer power? Happy
Here's a related true joke, wasted on you if you're not a football fan.
Legendary Detroit Lions QB Bobby Layne was old-school NFL from a Texas college. Caught driving erratically; the cop wrote him up, in part because 'his speech was slurred.'
At his trial, Bobby said, 'He misunderstood my Texas accent.' Acquitted.
Bumper stickers appeared afterward: "Ah ain't drunk - Ah'm from Texas"

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Carter had a weird pronunciation
Apr 28, 2005 6:13PM PDT

Noo-kee-yuh or something like that. I remember we used to laugh at it when he said it. On second thought we used to laugh at him when he said just about anything.

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This is a guy who could not remember....
Apr 29, 2005 12:14AM PDT

...what the State of the Union address was called. That said, I suppose he has to get a bit of a pass on "nucular" since Jimmy Carter used to mispronounce it too. Come to think of it, Jack Bauer says it that way also and he's saved the world three times already! Happy

I didn't watch the press conference. Every time I listen to him talk I get a headache -- mainly from slapping my forehead in disbelief at the things that come out of his mouth.

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Still rather have a bumbler
Apr 29, 2005 12:17AM PDT

I can trust than a slick tongued willy

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I saw a clip of Bush & Cheney the other day
Apr 29, 2005 1:19AM PDT

They were making a public appearance of some kind, and the look on Cheney's face was priceless. His expression was like, "yeah, I know he's a boob, you don't have to tell me....."

LOL.

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I often have that look on my face when
Apr 29, 2005 1:39AM PDT

I read some of the SE posts. Of course the main difference being that millions of people are not seeing it Wink

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Petty. Petty. PETTY!
Apr 29, 2005 12:17AM PDT

Sorry, Dan, but that is how I see something like this.

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Not really.
Apr 29, 2005 12:59AM PDT

If I were being petty I'd comment on how he keeps that idiotic/puzzled little grin on his stupid face regardless of the seriousness of the topic he's discussing. I don't comment on that because I truly believe that it is beyond his ability to control.

I do believe that if he applied himself he could pronounce the common word 'nuclear' correctly.

Dan

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(NT) and did you whine about it when carter said it i doubt it
Apr 29, 2005 1:01AM PDT
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Two points.
Apr 29, 2005 1:07AM PDT

First, every comment you disagree with is not automatically a whine. So just get over it, Mark. You've bored the forum with that for way too long.

Second, I didn't spend much time listening to politicians when I was that age. It is unlikely that I commented on it at all.

Dan

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I not going to call you a whiner, but
Apr 29, 2005 1:31AM PDT

I do think it is petty to harp about the word. When GW was running in 2000, he wasn?t my first choice and I did cringe when he spoke. But after 9/11 I didn?t care how he said anything as long as I believed that he believed what he was saying. That is far more important to me.

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Words are important.
Apr 29, 2005 1:44AM PDT

What words we choose and how we choose to say them is very important. They are a reflection, not only of our ideas, but of how we think. They are also what people use to evaluate a person and their ideas, in large part.

A president should do better. Much better.

Dan

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(NT) (NT) You have no idearr what you're talking about
Apr 29, 2005 1:49AM PDT
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(NT) That is where you are wrong.
Apr 29, 2005 1:51AM PDT
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(NT) YOUR words say otherwise.
Apr 29, 2005 2:20AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) meanings of words are important
Apr 29, 2005 2:27AM PDT
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(NT) Also
Apr 29, 2005 2:59AM PDT
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(NT) (NT) empty reply
Apr 29, 2005 3:07AM PDT
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(NT) and please serve some cheese with it
Apr 29, 2005 2:10AM PDT
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Wow! Dan is almost right...
Apr 29, 2005 2:38AM PDT

RIGHT - First, every comment you disagree with is not automatically a whine. So just get over it, Mark.

Once in a great while rather than a whine they are a whimper. Rather than getting "over it" one just gets used to it like wind in the trees, sirens on the street, and other obnoxious noises.

WRONG - You've bored the forum with that for way too long.

That would be your own personal problem as well as action Dan.

RIGHT - Second, I didn't spend much time listening to politicians when I was that age.

And it is noted that you still don't.

WRONG - It is unlikely that I commented on it at all.

You have commented on it in this very forum on previous occasions when Carter was mentioned or in the news.

Just like advice suggesting getting out of a kitchen if you can't stand the heat, you shouldn't complain about accusations of whining when they are supported by your own words that elicit the comment.

I would imagine that several people have had some excellent laughs at the way you have (either in the past or present) pronounced various words. I would go further than imagining and even bet on it because it is a simple and basic fact of life that everyone mispronounces words (even ones they are familiar with) at various times and for various reasons.

This post of yours and the one that initiated the thread are again fine examples of elements of the Drift Theory as applied to Liberals.

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**IF** you were being petty
Apr 29, 2005 1:10AM PDT

you would comment .... etc. .... I think you just did, Dan Happy

Anyway, pettiness aside (as I stand by my previous statement), I think this book would be a good read, not only for the self-appointed word cops, but for all of us. Sounds like it would be interesting and fun:
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B0007ZNVF4/104-0278874-1962323?v=glance

Going Nucular: Language, Politics, and Culture in Controversial Times by Geoffrey Nunberg. We're all attuned to the word games that other people try to play on us-what we have to watch out for are the ones we play on ourselves


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If your point is to suggest that
Apr 29, 2005 1:24AM PDT

bush is mispronouncing nuclear on purpose I must ask you a question. Which are you more comfortable with, a president that cannot pronounce an easy word properly, or a president that intentionally mispronounces an easy word?

Dan

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(NT) (NT) That was not my point at all
Apr 29, 2005 1:38AM PDT
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Kerry would say IdeaRR ...
Apr 29, 2005 1:43AM PDT

... all the time. If that was a disqualifier ...