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Now that's what I call a newspaper !!!

Reconnecting with the Guardian ... again.

"Now that's what I call democracy" by Simon Schama.

'It was when Michael Howard shifted into the conditional mood that I knew which side of the Atlantic I was really on. "On Friday," he said, "Britain could wake up to a brighter future." COULD? You mean ... it might not happen? If this had been Detroit or San Diego or Dubuque, incredulous staffers would have rushed the candidate off podium for emergency reprogramming. " Will, Michael," they would chant patiently at him until he Got It. "Never, ever so much as breathe a possibility of defeat." But this wasn't Dubuque, it was the Ashford Holiday Inn, and the Somewhat Beloved Leader was addressing the party faithful on how, probably, all things considered, he might, with any luck, and showery periods on Thursday, even the score by full time.'

http://politics.guardian.co.uk/election/story/0,15803,1476621,00.html

There, now I've posted something nice about a conservative. It's time for everyone at SE to say something nice about a Liberal or a Socialist. The former Soviet Union excepted.

Rob Boyter

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Something nice about extremists??? Ok

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Extreme liberals and extreme conservatives with BO are equally as stinky.;)

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Liberals and Democratic Socialists aren't extremists.

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Anybody supporting unrestricted Democratic choice doesn't qualify as an extremist. Extremists are those who restrict choices and/or try to impose one party states either by force or by implication. In other words, to try to define the United States as a country that should have only a conservative government is an extremist stand.

Rob

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Well....guess I was just pointing out

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that the spectrum of thought on either side of middle ground was very wide and the polar opposites are of equal repelling (or repulsive) value...and to suggest equality is supposed to be a good thing. You said that all should say something nice and all I could think of was an old joke about a fellow with poor social skills being instructed to say something nice to his blind date who was rather large. He thought and thought and all he could come up with was something like this. ''Gee, for a fat lady, you sure don't sweat much.'' So, to comply with your request, I'm just not able to conjure up much graciousness. Sorry.:)

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Ok Steve, this is just a question, there is no "my viewpoint

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is better and I'll prove it" agenda on my part, but out of Hitler's Germany, a significant gap, George Bush, Ronald Reagan, Nixon, Eisenhower, LBJ, Truman, post Thatcher England, FDR, contemporary Germany, contemporary France, contemporary Sweden, a significant gap, and Stalinist Russia, where do you stand? I'm an FDR Democrat who leans towards the European view of social responsibility. I'd call that moderately left-of-centre. I'd call Truman, Eisenhower and Kennedy roughly centrist though many, perhaps most, Europeans would call them right-wing.

I'd call George Bush an extreme conservative. Most of the Bushies here at SE seem to think they're middle of the road. I just can't figure out what that road could possibly be with two right lanes and no left, let alone a median for those of the middle-of-the-road persuasion. That's like Margaret Thatcher saying she was middle-of-the-road, but she was much to smart and honest for that. But that's JMO.

Rob

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My response

I have never tried to pigeon hole myself politically. Call me wishy washy if you want. I go issue by issue and put much thought into each but often use my gut first and brain later....and I retain the option of altering my stand as I try to keep my mind open even after taking it. One thing I do not do, when asked for or when offering an opinion, is check to see if Bush, Clinton, Kerry, Reagan, Jane Fonda, Sting, et al have offered their own and accept/reject one side based one whether or not I otherwise admire or dislike their politics. Such is my non-response.

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It's time for everyone at SE to say something nice about ...

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... I've had MANY nice things to say about Tony Blair over the years.

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