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Now, I love Macs but....

Nov 5, 2009 1:55AM PST

....am I the only one who hates the PC vs Mac commercial where PC talks about Windows 7 not having any the problems Vista had. Really? That's all they could come up with? These are the same people who complained about Microsoft's laptop hunter commercials?

Not to mention the problems with Snow Leopard that some people have had.

This isn't the first time I've seen one company slam another, but for some reason, that commercial just fills me with hate.

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Not only that, but...
Nov 5, 2009 4:52AM PST

They skip from Windows 95 to "Windows 2" in their flashbacks. Windows 2? How about 3 and 3.1, lol.

Seriously, though...their ads are desperate at best. But, as PT Barnun coined, "there's a sucker born every minute".

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They were funny at first but they should have moved on
Nov 5, 2009 9:09AM PST

about a year ago before they got stale. The new ones are just unfunny or plain obnoxious. I still love all my Macs but somebody at Apple or their ad company needed to stand up about a year ago and say "guys, like the energizer bunny, we're in serious danger of overstaying our welcome here. It's time to move on".

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I think it's pretty dead on, about Windows
Nov 5, 2009 7:29AM PST

It's a dirty secret that everyone really knows, Windows 7 is really just Vista. It's the Mojave experiment! With a new task bar.
Of course they don't tell you about how mac users had huge trouble going from OS 9 to OS X 10.0, Apple's Vista. And some trouble more recently with Leopard and Snow Leopard. But hey what do you expect, truth in advertising?

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By that logic...
Nov 5, 2009 8:10AM PST

Snow Leopard is really just Leopard, which is really just Tiger, which is really just Panther...well, you get the picture. Can't have it both ways, man.

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Just saying
Nov 5, 2009 8:41AM PST

It's not the upgrade Vista was.

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True but...
Nov 6, 2009 2:00AM PST

the last MAJOR OS update was from OS9 to OSX. Everything else was mostly tweaks to the same basic structure.

The main thing that's annoying about these ads is their hypocritical nature. At least with Verizon and AT&T, Verizon is telling the truth for the most part (even stating that the maps showed 3G converage of both networks).

Yes, Windows does have problems. But to say that Windows 7 has the SAME problems as Vista, which had the SAME problems as XP, etc is just reaching at best. Especially while ignoring your OWN upgrade problems.

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so what is your personal experience?
Nov 14, 2009 11:32PM PST

how do you like using so far when you've been using it??

just curious.

-karl Wink

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Windows 7
Nov 16, 2009 7:24AM PST

Is the only Windows I'd use. But it ain't OS X.

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what im sayin is...
Nov 21, 2009 12:51AM PST

call it what you want, but in my personal experience, it works WAYYYY better than vista and it shaved 6 gigs of memory free for me...

it looks pretty similar to vista but everything runs better, i can shut down and hibernate and wake up 10 times faster etc etc etc...

it really is better imho and not just rebranding of vista...


i mean would you say the same thing about all the osx updates? is it always the same osx? looks the same to me... but then again i dont have a mac

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Well
Nov 21, 2009 1:22PM PST

It's no more of an upgrade than Snow Leopard I guess. That is true.

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I like it... a lot
Nov 16, 2009 7:42AM PST

Seems to me (so far) that they've done everything right with Windows 7. It's sleek, and it just works. The only issue I had was with trying to get an old scanner with XP drivers written in 2001 to work. I did get it to work --sort of, lol-- but that's nothing on Windows 7.

I have to tweak my Nvidia drivers a little to test some gaming out, which I have not spent much time on yet.

But it's a very well crafted OS with lots of eye candy. Yeah, it's not OSX. And that's a good thing.

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Mac commercials
Nov 8, 2009 6:59AM PST

I agree. Those commercials are pretty annoying and they're getting petty at this point. Also, Windows 7 is working very well for me and I didn't have any problems with Vista.

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That's the thing
Nov 9, 2009 11:53AM PST

Vista's problem seemed to be more of a public image thing than a terrible OS. I've heard MANY people say they don't see any problems with Vista.

Speaking of....aside from acknowledging Vista's bad image, has Microsoft EVER claimed an OS didn't have any of the problems of the previous OS? Both Microsoft and Apple have touted features that improve on the previous OS, but that's something totally different.

Now, I've never been a staunch Windows Defender. To me, the OSX experience is the better of the two (at this point. Haven't tried 7 yet). However even I am annoyed with Apple at this one. I have to wonder how many people they're actually turning off with these ads.

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Remember
Nov 9, 2009 12:25PM PST

The goal of attack adverts is generally not to attack the competition, but to affect public perceptions of it. Verizon is currently doing the same sort of thing as Apple here.

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And Verizon's doing it better.
Nov 26, 2009 2:16AM PST

At least Verizon throws their proof up on the TV screen. Apple just prods along with outdated public perceptions, hoping that it'll continue to stick.

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they are huge a-hole hypocrites for sure
Nov 14, 2009 11:29PM PST

i am right w you buddy. to make all those tongue in cheek mac commercials and then cry like babies over the buy a laptop ad makes me sick to my stomach.

nothing worse in the wold than a hypocrite, well hypocrites and terrorists...

-k

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LAME
Nov 16, 2009 1:56AM PST

They are just desperate to get 7 to have a better rep than Vista got...the commercials aren't helpful anyway.

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MacBreak Weekly
Nov 25, 2009 11:44PM PST

Andy Ihnatkho made the comment of how Apple should have dressed Justin Long in rags, or nothing to reflect Apple's position through the years as Windows developed.

I almost regret upgrading to Snow Leopard, as Leopard was much more stable.

I would have gone with a Windows 7 compatibility angle for my ad...

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lol
Dec 4, 2009 3:03AM PST

I didn't think of that. Or maybe a school uniform, since most mac users in the 90s were still in school because Apple was in bed with the school districts and all.

It's actually quite funny. In 1996 when I was shopping for my first computer, I had macs shoved down my throat so much that I did NOT want to own one.

I didn't own my first mac until I bought my ibook in 2005. I enjoyed the experience, but the genius bar left a bad taste in my mouth.


For those wondering, my SuperDrive wouldn't eject a DVD I had in it. It wouldn't even acknowledge the DVD was in. I took it to an Apple store and a week later I get a call saying that there's "liquid damage" and it would cost 700 bucks to repair. Now, I treated this thing like a small child and water went nowhere NEAR my computer.

Though mine is an isolated experience it seems. And after all that, I'd still buy a mac down the line. Just wont take it to that apple store.

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lol...
Dec 4, 2009 8:45AM PST

I know what you meant when you said "I treated this thing like a small child...", but at first I thought you meant "I treated this thing like a small child would...". Now THAT would have been a different story altogether Happy

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This much is true
Dec 4, 2009 9:13AM PST

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